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MSI-1436 stimulates regeneration of heart and multiple other tissues

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I remember getting NSI-189 synthesized by a Polish lab back in the day. An interesting time of my life.

Fascinating chemical. Looks like you can buy it around a lot of places now-a-days. Did you notice any benefits from a nootropic standpoint?

I was there during it . There were 2 forms the freebase and the phosphate form . The phosphate form is what was being used in the phase trials . Many found huge beneficial results but it seemed like all of it was plocebo . It failed phase 2 trials and the company's sticks were in free fall . I knew something was up when thr CEO (iirc) sold most of his stocks before they released the data.

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Dep nding on how complex the molecule is sometimes they won't even be able to make it . More than the half the group buys on that specific longevity forum failed

Failed like nobody committed to the synthesis?

Failed as in it was too difficult to make . I know of one example. The oral version of glyx-13( nrx-1074 iirc) which a few tried to make and failed . Which is good since the non oral version failed fantastically at the phase 3 trials

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Hopefully this works too in Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials. Looks promising. And doesn't get patented to hell with insane pricing.

patents don't mean shit. if it's safe, effective, and profitable I'll be able to custom order it soon enough.

Yep, looking into it.

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labs in India and China.

India has been pretty open and vocal about ignoring pharma patents when it comes to medications. They put the needs of the people above the financial wants of the industry. It's been a cause of tension in trade negotiations.

Please. It's not ignoring patents. It's about ignoring patents after time limit and not allowing patents with minor modifications.

Insulin is still patented in US even though it was invented in Canada.

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India has been pretty open and vocal about ignoring pharma patents when it comes to medications. They put the needs of the people above the financial wants of the industry. It's been a cause of tension in trade negotiations.

Please. It's not ignoring patents. It's about ignoring patents after time limit and not allowing patents with minor modifications. Insulin is still patented in US even though it was invented in Canada.

> Please. It's not ignoring patents.

Yes it is. And the pharma industry is pretty butthurt about it.

https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/03/19/inside-india-...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2013/04/08/indias...

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I remember getting NSI-189 synthesized by a Polish lab back in the day. An interesting time of my life.

Fascinating chemical. Looks like you can buy it around a lot of places now-a-days. Did you notice any benefits from a nootropic standpoint?

This is all anecdotal so probably not enough to be conclusive but I've noticed both a somewhat nootropic but definitely a significantly mood-enhancing effect from it.

Color were brighter after the first few days. Not psychedelic brighter but bluer blues, greener greens. What I felt was reminiscent of that child-like awe in experiences along with remembering instances of those awe-filled moments I had as a child.

Looking at the sky and watching the nature (which is something I hadn't been doing in years) made think "I'm lucky to be able to observe this". Looking at the sky and watching the way clouds move brought back flashbacks of probably the last time I had done that as a kid.

Very interesting chemical indeed. I believe it has a lot of potential.

After using up my supply, there was no withdrawal or crash. I guess the color enhancement went away gradually over a few months. However I could argue I got permanent memory enhancement from it. I have no data to support it but I became the kind of person that can remember the most obscure things and follow really long chains of connotations. And if you asked me, I wasn't like that before experimenting with NSI-189.

But that being said, I even tried Cerebrolysin months before that for nootropic exploration. So for all we know, the memory enhancement stems from that. In hindsight, I must have been very daring to have injected myself with peptides purified from pig brains. :)

Re: MSI-1436 stimulates regeneration of heart and multiple other tissues

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Please. It's not ignoring patents. It's about ignoring patents after time limit and not allowing patents with minor modifications. Insulin is still patented in US even though it was invented in Canada.

> Please. It's not ignoring patents. Yes it is. And the pharma industry is pretty butthurt about it. https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/03/19/inside-india-... https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2013/04/08/indias...

It says in the article

>India’s law sets a higher bar for protection than in some other countries, limiting the ability of companies to get patents for new versions of drugs whose active ingredients were previously known unless they can show significant therapeutic benefit.

It's not ignoring patents, it's setting a high bar for them. You can't rehash old medicine and patent them.

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