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Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

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Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

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>> Revenue rose to $145 million from $92 million a year earlier. Slack said it had more than 100,000 paying customers, a 37 percent increase over last year. They should be fine. $307m of the loss was stock-related compensation. How could you screw up a business who has a product as popular as Slack?

By taking too much investment, needing to pay back too much so you end up destroying your business for short term gains. edit: Just look at what's happening to Patreon

What’s happening to Patreon?

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

#22

Well if they’d just implement dark mode or a dark theme on desktop...

I thoroughly enjoy going through this thread every time slack updates and breaks my dark theme CSS hack (nowadays I just miserably run it in a tab with darkreader).. 2014! They're making sure that they've "upgraded their infrastructure" before they release it I believe was the last real update with substance.

https://twitter.com/slackhq/status/531941157283315712?lang=e...

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

#23

I'm surprised investors aren't more scared of the competition, particularly Microsoft and its Teams product that is part of Office 365. Maybe it's not a huge deal because the overlap of Slack customers and Office 365 customers isn't that big?

Teams isn't going to directly take market share from Slack, but it forms a hard barrier limiting Slack's future growth. Large established organizations are switching to Teams, and finding it good enough that they'll never want to pay for Slack.

Never underestimate the power of workplace bureaucracy. At organizational size X, integrating with new Microsoft product Y, single sign on working and easy deploys to all office machines, support from Microsoft and Microsoft lackeys pitching new ideas to IT people, of course they're gonna pick teams.

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

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post #8

>> Revenue rose to $145 million from $92 million a year earlier. Slack said it had more than 100,000 paying customers, a 37 percent increase over last year. They should be fine. $307m of the loss was stock-related compensation. How could you screw up a business who has a product as popular as Slack?

Why wouldn't stock based compensation count as equivalent to wage expenses? I saw similar comments about Uber/Lyft's loses being primarily made up of stock comp loss, but would all the people getting the stock still work there if they weren't getting paid stock?

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

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post #8

>> Revenue rose to $145 million from $92 million a year earlier. Slack said it had more than 100,000 paying customers, a 37 percent increase over last year. They should be fine. $307m of the loss was stock-related compensation. How could you screw up a business who has a product as popular as Slack?

By taking too much investment, needing to pay back too much so you end up destroying your business for short term gains. edit: Just look at what's happening to Patreon

Staffing way too high, too!

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

#27

Leaving aside the costs of their listing and related compensation (which are crazy high!) they made a $57m loss on $145m in revenue. Considering that they are a pure software company this is quite shocking and, to me, a sign not to touch them with a barge pole.

What revenue and loss numbers (relative %s) would not shock you?

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

#28

I get that they are the most obvious comparisons for recent IPOs, but it's disappointing to see Slack being conflated with Uber, Lyft, and We, none of which have a remote chance of ever making more than a razor-thin profit in their respective industries. Whereas Slack is a SaaS company, with the real potential (whether it's likely or not) to become highly profitable down the road.

If they can figure out how to get cash out of the gigantic amount of people who use slack without anyone paying for anything, it'll be phenomenal.

Really hope the answer isn't ads!

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

#29
post #8

>> Revenue rose to $145 million from $92 million a year earlier. Slack said it had more than 100,000 paying customers, a 37 percent increase over last year. They should be fine. $307m of the loss was stock-related compensation. How could you screw up a business who has a product as popular as Slack?

By taking too much investment, needing to pay back too much so you end up destroying your business for short term gains. edit: Just look at what's happening to Patreon

I’m out of the loop. What’s happening with Patreon?

Re: Slack’s Shares Plunge After It Predicts a Larger Loss

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post #8

>> Revenue rose to $145 million from $92 million a year earlier. Slack said it had more than 100,000 paying customers, a 37 percent increase over last year. They should be fine. $307m of the loss was stock-related compensation. How could you screw up a business who has a product as popular as Slack?

> after it predicts a larger loss

IMO the bigger issue here is there expectations to lose 9c / share next quarter, which isn't explained by that $307 M last quarter.

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