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More UFOs Than Ever Before

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Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

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There is an epistemological truth here that is overlooked: for any non-reproducible phenomenon, physical or psychological, we can make no judgments on what happened.

The default answer is always going to be "no" for some people and "yes" for others. These are the folks who just have to have a firm answer. The actual answer is "nobody knows"

I also want to believe, so I tend to be extremely skeptical of any UFO stories. But looking throughout history, I have to admit that I am in no position to make a decision one way or another. A bunch of really respected guys made some observations of a thing with instrumental evidence that we don't understand? Cool. There's something we don't understand. Spinning up some tale of the atom bomb or aliens? That's just to sell books to the rubes. We don't know. That's okay.

If there are other intelligent lifeforms around, and if they have any developmental parallels in their society to ours, they probably think of us as nothing more than a particularly advanced form of fungus. And if they were to come here to observe, they'd either use a blind or come and go in such a way to create the kind evidential noise we currently see in the public record. So while I wish something is going to come along and settle this, it ain't going to happen.

Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

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There are so, so many atmospheric phenomenon that can produce 'ufos'. Every time someone sees a jetliner compressed by humidity and heat into a row of dots (the windows) around a cigar shape, they're convinced its the first time anyone has ever seen such a thing. The burden of proof for a 'real' ufo is heavy, and nobody makes any real effort. Its reasonable to dismiss the entire topic as overheated descriptions of no…

crown flashes and ball lightning have to be some of the strangest https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CPk0mKVnnCs

Whoa. It's a completely different class of dynamic phenomenon, unlike anything I've ever seen. Thank you for posting.

Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

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If UFOs are real, it's unlikely they started to appear only recently and most likely had Earth as their playground (vacation destination/ZOO), and maybe even originating life. Who knows, maybe this is some alien university project on how to make life on a distant planet from the scratch? We can observe that cells/DNA are programmed to adapt to local changes; we have no idea how they make sudden jumps for a more efficient design; maybe somebody was doing alien PhD in a better bipedal design in carbon-based life forms and just planted results here to see how they proliferate...

If you look at religions, they all resemble optimization algorithms to build civilizations with different attributes; one could seed different "rules" to different parts of the world and observe which rules become the dominant ones and which kind of civilizations they bring. Moreover, having a conflict between different civilizations that couldn't be reconciled by any other way than a total annihilation, it could provide a needed impetus for progress as the permanent conflict it brings forces people to develop quickly and throw out inefficient ways to survive. From this point of view, globalization might be worse for our progress as species; USA vs China competition might be a needed conflict to progress in any meaningful way.

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I think there's probably something to the UFO phenomenon. However I'm convinced Bob Lazar is a fraud. It's a tricky case because certain parts of his story are verifiable, like that he worked at Los Alamos and that his friends did see a moving light in the sky. The best explanation I've seen is here: http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange... http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-s…

Seeing unknown/strange things in the sky above a secret military test facility or air force base really doesn't seem that baffling or strange to me.

Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

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post #4

Wow. An interesting nod to the incredibly fascinating third season of David Lynch's 'Twin Peaks', whose brilliant eighth episode and the accompanying Secret History of Twin Peaks and Final Dossier novels were astounding examples of historical fiction. I was quite impressed as to just how deep that rabbit-hole went.

Every time I read a Paris Review article linked from here, I'm glad I did. They've published a lot of great stuff that you can easily read in a short sitting.

Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

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There are so, so many atmospheric phenomenon that can produce 'ufos'. Every time someone sees a jetliner compressed by humidity and heat into a row of dots (the windows) around a cigar shape, they're convinced its the first time anyone has ever seen such a thing. The burden of proof for a 'real' ufo is heavy, and nobody makes any real effort. Its reasonable to dismiss the entire topic as overheated descriptions of no…

> There are so, so many atmospheric phenomenon that can produce 'ufos'.

Neil Degrasse Tyson commented on this by saying that the difference between a layperson seeing a UFO and an astronomer (or whatever) is that the latter knows what strange natural phenomenon they're looking at (or at least can conceive that its natural based on other similar things that they do know) while the layperson doesn't and therefore jumps to conclusions that someone who spends a lot of time looking at the sky wouldn't.

Re: More UFOs Than Ever Before

#30

> I wish I could see one for myself, as I wish I could see the Virgin Mary floating above the yellow roses in my backyard. When I said this to my neighbor, who runs a blog called I Saw One Too, he shook his head sadly and said, “No you don’t. You really don’t.” The one time I thought I was seeing something unexplainable out on the highway at night (thankfully revealed, after ten minutes or so, to be the oddest atmosp…

> man, I really don’t want to be one of those people who’s seen a UFO

You just reminded me of the Saturday Night Live sketch Close Encounter. It's one of the funniest things they've done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfPdYYsEfAE

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