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I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

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Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering that as well. However I am not sure I would call it a technical post. To me it reads more like the rant of a person who hates react because it was written by facebook.

Another issue is that there is a much more serious and extensive history of value judgements about "black" people, rather than about "white" people. At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever. It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology.…

> For example it only serves the racists' cause to argue who is actually black or who is actually white, or how much of each.

When you're treated better the lighter/whiter you are, then it makes sense why people would argue about it

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#22

Serious, not intended to flame bait question: Why is race/gender featured so prominently in this technical post? Would it be appropriate to open a post with “black men in tech had a twitter meltdown”?

One difference is that "black men in tech" are a minority with a lot of discriminatory experiences. Criticizing a minority you don't belong to for complaining too much is something different than criticizing the majority you do belong to for the same thing. I don't know about "react-gate" yet, but I'm sure to find out in a few minutes.

I don't find anything inflammatory about what you said and yet your comment is very grey.

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering that as well. However I am not sure I would call it a technical post. To me it reads more like the rant of a person who hates react because it was written by facebook.

Another issue is that there is a much more serious and extensive history of value judgements about "black" people, rather than about "white" people. At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever. It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology.…

How about this: value judgements based on race are bad. Full Stop.

I will never understand this mindset that racism is only a problem if there is some nasty history involved.

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#24
This is not a tech article and shouldn't be listed. I read the summary of twitter remarks and am constantly amazed by how sensitive people appear to be.

... I should have left it alone as soon as I saw the comments about capitalism being shit and intersectionalism being a real thing.

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#25
post #7

Someone wrongly accused a well known React dev of being a white supremacist for things that didn't happen. Now people are, rightfully, angered about the false accusations, but the accusers use this to say "see, we said you are toxic!" Guess we gonna have fallout from this bullshit a long time...

It seems like the well known React developer has a somewhat more ... illustrous ... history of questionable behavior, so while he may not be an actually white supremacist, he does seem to fit a certain toxic mold. On the other hand, the mentioned female developer has probably had quite a lot of such experiences with direct and indirect racism, perceived or actual, but either she kept quiet or it didn't blow up that m…

Are you referring to the behaviour described here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUS... (for instance using the words "guys", "stupid" and "crazy") or something else?

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#26
post #7

Someone wrongly accused a well known React dev of being a white supremacist for things that didn't happen. Now people are, rightfully, angered about the false accusations, but the accusers use this to say "see, we said you are toxic!" Guess we gonna have fallout from this bullshit a long time...

I don't understand anything at all. It seems some dev used an OK HAND emoji in some slides during some talk, and it was misinterpreted as the White Supremacist symbol or whatever.

Someone felt attacked personally, criticized it on Twitter and now everything is going downhill...

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#27
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another issue is that there is a much more serious and extensive history of value judgements about "black" people, rather than about "white" people. At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever. It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology.…

> For example it only serves the racists' cause to argue who is actually black or who is actually white, or how much of each. When you're treated better the lighter/whiter you are, then it makes sense why people would argue about it

It makes sense for people who think they can benefit from that racism, therefor serving the racist cause.

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the well known React developer has a somewhat more ... illustrous ... history of questionable behavior, so while he may not be an actually white supremacist, he does seem to fit a certain toxic mold. On the other hand, the mentioned female developer has probably had quite a lot of such experiences with direct and indirect racism, perceived or actual, but either she kept quiet or it didn't blow up that m…

Are you referring to the behaviour described here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g4oh2GGZOsucZfT1YJ5wjDUS... (for instance using the words "guys", "stupid" and "crazy") or something else?

What's the source of that document?

I found a page[0] with more info and link references to multiple sources that seems to explain everything in detail.

[0]: https://dev.to/aryanjnyc/ken-wheeler-and-dan-abramov-deactiv...

Re: I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another issue is that there is a much more serious and extensive history of value judgements about "black" people, rather than about "white" people. At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever. It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology.…

How about this: value judgements based on race are bad. Full Stop. I will never understand this mindset that racism is only a problem if there is some nasty history involved.

Nasty history is quite often the difference between a racist value judgement and a relatively innocent statement about people.

Racists can often behind ignoring that distinction. It's called a dog-whistle.

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