101 videos from the CCC 2019 ? This is a good day.
CCCamp was last week, I believe.
A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
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Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not exactly on this topic as it appears to be a hit-piece about the company making the phone. There's been a few hit-piece comments here on HN made by new accounts on other Librem 5 posts too. Anyway, I'm not an expert about most of that stuff, but they wrote: > They aren't shipping firmware updates. Uh... the phone hasn't even been released yet!
They have ensured by design that what remains of proprietary firmware on the phone can't be updated, because they want a FSF Free hardware certification, and that's the only way to get that and have non-free firmware components. Not updateable non-free firmware is tolerated as being "part of the hardware" in a way, updateable firmware is software and required to be open.
Which proprietary firmware?
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#23Reddit discussion on this topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/cje7vg/dont_use_pu...
If you're going to boil anything, it better be the ocean, eh?
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have ensured by design that what remains of proprietary firmware on the phone can't be updated, because they want a FSF Free hardware certification, and that's the only way to get that and have non-free firmware components. Not updateable non-free firmware is tolerated as being "part of the hardware" in a way, updateable firmware is software and required to be open.
Which proprietary firmware?
Parts of the memory interface have been mentioned previously: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd...
Similarly, they seem to have choosen the Wifi and Bluetooth chips as well because they have no downloadable firmware, and the isolation for the baseband probably ensures the same there: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-2018-09-hardware-report/
If those would have meaningful updates is a good question, and clearly it only applies to some of the firmware, but I suspect that's what the exagerated original claim is based on.
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which proprietary firmware?
Parts of the memory interface have been mentioned previously: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd... Similarly, they seem to have choosen the Wifi and Bluetooth chips as well because they have no downloadable firmware, and the isolation for the baseband probably ensures the same there: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-2018-09-hardware-report/ If those would have meaningful updates is a good ques…
Okay, thank you.
Is there any way to mitigate this if one wants to keep Wifi and Bluetooth?
I guess if one really wanted to be pure then, they could just keep the second (of three, see below) hardware switches off, and even possibly de-solder a connection, to ensure they aren't accidently flipped on.
Hardware Switches:
- cameras and microphone
- WiFi and Bluetooth
- cellular baseband
(When all three switches are off, power is also killed to sensors a la "Lockdown Mode")
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#26Excellent talk. I can't wait for this phone (Librem 5) to be available. Only wish the specs were slightly better (higher screen rez for ex). But the privacy and security features more than make up for that.
I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
wget https://mirror.eu.oneandone.net/projects/media.ccc.de//event... should do the trick
He is on mobile ^
Since this is an article about an Android phone, I realise giving an iOS solution for this may not be that helpful. For anyone using iOS, the Apple Shortcuts app has an action "Get Contents of URL". You can use this to make a shortcut to save the contents of any URL similar to using wget. I often find this useful, and highly recommend the Shortcuts app in general. It's not perfect, but helps add missing functionality.
Been a while since I used Android regularly, but there will be a similar (easier) method for a shortcut to download the contents of a URL.
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#28i hope it materializes; i try to avoid pre-ordering but the quality of their tech updates and blog posts, along with this talk have nudged me into ordering.
thanks for the work you are doing Purism
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#29so how do you get a phone number for this phone, do you just buy service / sim card from a regular carrier and then plop it in or what?
Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]
#30Excellent talk. I can't wait for this phone (Librem 5) to be available. Only wish the specs were slightly better (higher screen rez for ex). But the privacy and security features more than make up for that.
I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.
I don't think this phone was built for the masses. It's a boutique device offering functionality for a tiny niche audience.