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Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by enibundo »

nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

Thanks for your github Nikivi.

I remember asking this question some time ago and it got ignored by people here (of course): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12864591

If it doesn't include the words: dividend, stock, option, etc. it doesn't work here.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by onevu »

oblio wrote: post #9
onevu wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>we are all responsible, it's not Brazil's responsibility, it's World's responsibility to take care of nature. Eh, no. The part of the Amazon that is in Brazil belongs to Brazil.

If you burn down your house and the fire spills over to my house, it stops being just your problem.

Has the fire spilled over other country?

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by enibundo »

lucasfcosta wrote: post #18
enibundo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know how US gathers forces to go fight in iraq etc? Imagine if they did the same thing to help nature. I am not even talking about sending their people, just the mobilisation of politics to act on important subjects. Til we forget the "my lawn, your shit" way of thinking shit will be going south

This is not how it works. This situation is entirely different. You are missing a lot of the nuance here. Brazil is a huge country which supplies many countries with countless commodities and other products. External military intervention would only make the situation worse. This is not how international politics work. I'm definitely not in favour of what has happened in Iraq, but brute-forcing every problem with ext…

I think your logics is flawed here :

> external intervention

We are all internal to the same world/nature.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by hjrnunes »

lucasfcosta wrote: post #15
enibundo wrote: post #7

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This is how it has been functioning til now. Of course. But one should have 1% critical/analytical brain to understand that this is not how it should be going. If you don't consider yourself subject subject to change you are doomed to disappear.

I think that the problem here is not agreeing on whether this is awful. It's already pretty clear that it is. However, other countries cannot intervene. Brazilian borders are Brazilian, any other country that wants to help needs to be authorised by Brazilian authorities. The real problem here is that Brazil's leaders are awful and there's nothing that can be done in regards to that. It's only possible to protest and…

Funny how no one proposed to remove California from US sovereignty when the fires were raging awhile back.

Or the Gulf of Mexico coast with the Deep Horizon incident.

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Não vai encontrar razoabilidade aqui, amigo. Esta gente julga que manda no mundo inteiro.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by emblaegh »

nikivi wrote: post #5

The sad part of reading news like this is the feeling of paralysis and helplessness of watching it all unfold. There are no actionable calls to action or advice laid out in articles like these. Awareness is good though. Perhaps it inspires people to work directly on solving nature's greatest problems. A friend of mine made a GitHub curated list about tech companies working in this space. https://github.com/nglgzz/awe…

If the government is not comitted to the preservation of the Amazon, then there's really nothing that can be done. One could consider imposing international sanctions, but the chance of that backfiring would be quite high IMHO.

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Post by consp »

onevu wrote: post #22
oblio wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you burn down your house and the fire spills over to my house, it stops being just your problem.

Has the fire spilled over other country?

The pollution and collateral global impact does.

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by efdee »

Ma8ee wrote: post #14
onevu wrote: post #6

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>we are all responsible, it's not Brazil's responsibility, it's World's responsibility to take care of nature. Eh, no. The part of the Amazon that is in Brazil belongs to Brazil.

Yes, but if climate change is part of the cause of the fires we are all responsible by contributing greenhouse gases.

From the article:

"There is nothing abnormal about the climate this year or the rainfall in the Amazon region, which is just a little below average," Inpe researcher Alberto Setzer told Reuters.

"The dry season creates the favourable conditions for the use and spread of fire, but starting a fire is the work of humans, either deliberately or by accident."

Re: Amazon fires: Record number burning in Brazil rainforest

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Post by enibundo »

onevu wrote: post #22
oblio wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you burn down your house and the fire spills over to my house, it stops being just your problem.

Has the fire spilled over other country?

Do you understand how nature works?

You know ANYTHING about air?

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