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IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

#21

I doubt IBM lays off its older workers solely to appeal to Millenials. It's more likely that older workers are laid off because they are more expensive due to higher higher pay, have more paid time off, use more healthcare and are more politically calibrated to their organizations than younger workers.

It's more likely that older workers are laid off because..

This is just a list of rationalizations that you would prefer to believe. That doesn't make them true. If those reasons were actually correct then IBM wouldn't need to fire people. They could solve all of them in other, less (potentially) very expensive ways.

Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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I was curious what IBM still makes that people use since they sold their Thinkpad division to Lenovo years ago, so I googled it:

> IBM produces and sells computer hardware, middleware and software, and provides hosting and consulting services in areas ranging from mainframe computers to nanotechnology. IBM is also a major research organization, holding the record for most U.S. patents generated by a business (as of 2019) for 26 consecutive years.

What on Earth are all of those patents for?

Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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post #6

More like replace 100k workers that expect work life balance for underpaid millennial that you can exploit at submarket wages for long hours.

They won't be replacing anyone in the US, despite what they say. They are in a decades long quest to get rid of jobs in the USA and give them to people elsewhere.

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simple fact, that IBM stuff is never used by big sites (fb, spotify, google, etc..) despite their solutions being available for ages should lead anyone to the conclusion that they are salesware. QRadar is a glorified syslog server with a query interface (bought by IBM in 2011, formerly developed by Q1 Labs, est 2001), and ... again the fact that Splunk is available (started 2 years after Q1 Labs), that the ELK st…

What's salesware?

Sales people pitch it to executives, shows some fancy demo and then sign a contract that's "appealing" in cost and "savings".

Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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post #5

Firing talent because of age is not so smart I think. Of course I don't know who they fire, etc. But I'm young, yeah, and I want to distance myself from IBM products. Why? I'v been setting IBM Tivoli/Spectrum protect to backup client computers and, ugh, is it ugly, unfriendly and complex piece of software. I'v also touched the server part. Maybe it's just me, the windows guy (but who loves scripting) and it is more a…

The simple fact, that IBM stuff is never used by big sites (fb, spotify, google, etc..) despite their solutions being available for ages should lead anyone to the conclusion that they are salesware. QRadar is a glorified syslog server with a query interface (bought by IBM in 2011, formerly developed by Q1 Labs, est 2001), and ... again the fact that Splunk is available (started 2 years after Q1 Labs), that the ELK st…

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Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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I was curious what IBM still makes that people use since they sold their Thinkpad division to Lenovo years ago, so I googled it: > IBM produces and sells computer hardware, middleware and software, and provides hosting and consulting services in areas ranging from mainframe computers to nanotechnology. IBM is also a major research organization, holding the record for most U.S. patents generated by a business (as of 2…

I had someone from IBM service my Lenovo P50 Thinkpad last week so they still do that apparently.

Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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post #15

When I went to the multi-day IBM recruiting event for new grads about 2 years ago, there were red flags ALL OVER the place. It was frankly ridiculous. Talking with some employees they were basically saying "don't work here" as plainly as they could while being watched over by IBM recruiters. You just knew you were walking into a failing company defined solely by bureaucracy and politics with employees that don't real…

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Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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I live in east Europe, and there is an IBM branch here, and this may sound harsh, but most of their staff complain about support from their indian colleagues (low quality support and poor communication skills). They are hiring "young" staff here as well, which frankly wouldn't pass a junior level interview - wouldn't be an issue if they wouldn't advertise them as experienced. My take is that IBM is a dying company, cutting costs, and dealing mostly with clients in a similar position. I'd stay away from working there.

Re: IBM Fired as Many as 100k in Recent Years, Lawsuit Shows

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post #7

s/Millennials/Generation Z/ at this point. Millennials are all in their 30s and older now.

There is no evidence of this article mixing that up

No need to copy and paste your canned generation label response just because millennial was mentioned, useful for linkedin clickbait but not really this article

This article just gets a mild chuckle about a company catering to a nearly middle aged experienced workforce because even they find IBM uncool

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