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Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

#21
What I would like to see is a country average temperature record, we often see high temps, some may be a small hotspot, others may well encompass the entire country. With that, are heat waves becoming larger in size and by that - area covered? Asking as from my experience in life, they kinda feel like they are.

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

#22
post #4

This seems like the perfect time to panic. I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive.

Well, I'm certainly not getting out alive. And so far, nobody that I know of has. Maybe someday, one day, though.

But yes, you likely meant "we're" in the sense of the human race, or modern technological society. I really doubt that the human race is seriously at risk. Although global population could drop substantially. As part of modern technological society crashing.

So it goes. It was probably inevitable.

Edit: As with population boom-and-bust cycles, generally.

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #15
post #4

This seems like the perfect time to panic. I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive.

> I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive. Even worst case predictions for climate change don't imply the human race will be threatened. But what we will see is massive geopolitical disruption as previously habitable regions become uninhabitable. What happens when coastal Myanmar is underwater or southern India experiences 130 degree days on a regular basis? Climate change is going to make itself felt ov…

I guess it depends on what you mean by "threatened". Sure, humans will continue to exist, we won't go extinct, at least not globally. But we're looking at local and possibly global societal collapse. If we're back 500 years in the past developmentally and technologically, that's a huge deal. Maybe even if you survive, can you go back to a world without vaccines, antibiotics and mass communication?

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #4

This seems like the perfect time to panic. I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive.

I wonder if Canada and Russia will be the nicest places to live in the next century.

The northern parts, sure. Also northern China. The Arctic could become the new Mediterranean.

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #15
post #4

This seems like the perfect time to panic. I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive.

> I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive. Even worst case predictions for climate change don't imply the human race will be threatened. But what we will see is massive geopolitical disruption as previously habitable regions become uninhabitable. What happens when coastal Myanmar is underwater or southern India experiences 130 degree days on a regular basis? Climate change is going to make itself felt ov…

If extreme political instability from climate change leads to nuclear war, that could threaten human extinction.

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #3

Greenland's ice sheet has been melting pretty fast for years [1]. Maybe it's because I'm not a native English speaker, but using "threaten" sounds to me like until now it had been living peacefully unaffected by climate change. [1] https://www.livescience.com/64546-greenland-ice-sheet-meltin...

> Greenland's ice sheet has been melting pretty fast for years [1].

Your link talks about how the rate of ice sheet melting is increasing (currently 4x what it was in 2003), so I'm not sure how you arrived at this statement. The whole problem is not that it was never melting in the past, it's that the melting is accelerating, and that even the rate of acceleration may be increasing due to feedback loops; that is what is threatening.

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive. Even worst case predictions for climate change don't imply the human race will be threatened. But what we will see is massive geopolitical disruption as previously habitable regions become uninhabitable. What happens when coastal Myanmar is underwater or southern India experiences 130 degree days on a regular basis? Climate change is going to make itself felt ov…

I guess it depends on what you mean by "threatened". Sure, humans will continue to exist, we won't go extinct, at least not globally. But we're looking at local and possibly global societal collapse. If we're back 500 years in the past developmentally and technologically, that's a huge deal. Maybe even if you survive, can you go back to a world without vaccines, antibiotics and mass communication?

Do you think we can lose 500 years of tech development globally? I can see some areas becoming challenging and definitely a slowdown in progress but it seems unlikely that all this knowledge will evaporate

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just don’t see how we’re getting out of this alive. Even worst case predictions for climate change don't imply the human race will be threatened. But what we will see is massive geopolitical disruption as previously habitable regions become uninhabitable. What happens when coastal Myanmar is underwater or southern India experiences 130 degree days on a regular basis? Climate change is going to make itself felt ov…

I guess it depends on what you mean by "threatened". Sure, humans will continue to exist, we won't go extinct, at least not globally. But we're looking at local and possibly global societal collapse. If we're back 500 years in the past developmentally and technologically, that's a huge deal. Maybe even if you survive, can you go back to a world without vaccines, antibiotics and mass communication?

as a reminder, the original comment was "I don't see how we are getting out of this alive"

Re: Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland

#29
post #21

What I would like to see is a country average temperature record, we often see high temps, some may be a small hotspot, others may well encompass the entire country. With that, are heat waves becoming larger in size and by that - area covered? Asking as from my experience in life, they kinda feel like they are.

It's more vague and visual than what you describe, but this makes pretty compelling visualizations:

https://showyourstripes.info/

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