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Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by posix_compliant » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:19 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #15

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Also, the viewer packaged with nuScenes was built by Steven Hao from Scale, and while it was packaged as part of nuScenes it should probably be called Scale's viewer instead of nuScenes' viewer. The original viewer in the nuscenes SDK has the Scale logo, but it looks like Lyft removed that in the fork. Maybe a bit of public shaming will fix that... Dear Lyft marketing person who wrote this: we are a data labeling com…

Not nitpicking, genuinely curious. L10? I've never heard of that climbing scale.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by cm2012 » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:31 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Quick tip: voice concerns about partners in private. Lyft will probably be happy to credit Scale more - it was likely an honest mistake. But now you dragged them through the mud publicly, which is going to make big companies less likely to work with Scale in the future.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by person_of_color » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:33 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #15

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Also, the viewer packaged with nuScenes was built by Steven Hao from Scale, and while it was packaged as part of nuScenes it should probably be called Scale's viewer instead of nuScenes' viewer. The original viewer in the nuscenes SDK has the Scale logo, but it looks like Lyft removed that in the fork. Maybe a bit of public shaming will fix that... Dear Lyft marketing person who wrote this: we are a data labeling com…

> Steven is one of the smartest people in the world

Also has a fan club on HN. :D

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by partingshots » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:52 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Yeah, this comment to me really gives off a bad impression of Scale as a whole. My immediate reaction, assuming this is how Scale normally deals with PR, is that this company is still far too immature to be properly handling any sort of legitimate partnership.

FYI, you’re unlikely to solve any of your problems airing grievances on a public forum instead of just directly emailing the people involved.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:54 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #15

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Also, the viewer packaged with nuScenes was built by Steven Hao from Scale, and while it was packaged as part of nuScenes it should probably be called Scale's viewer instead of nuScenes' viewer. The original viewer in the nuscenes SDK has the Scale logo, but it looks like Lyft removed that in the fork. Maybe a bit of public shaming will fix that... Dear Lyft marketing person who wrote this: we are a data labeling com…

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Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by DeonPenny » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 1:59 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

You should delete this.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by _coveredInBees » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:03 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Out of curiosity, isn't Lyft just a customer that pays Scale for annotation services? Or is there a reason for this to be more of a partnership and less of a customer-client relationship?

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by breck » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:03 AM UTC

DeonPenny wrote: post #26

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

You should delete this.

Nah, it’s a harmless mistake. Good for people to learn from.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by CameronBanga » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:03 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #15

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

Also, the viewer packaged with nuScenes was built by Steven Hao from Scale, and while it was packaged as part of nuScenes it should probably be called Scale's viewer instead of nuScenes' viewer. The original viewer in the nuscenes SDK has the Scale logo, but it looks like Lyft removed that in the fork. Maybe a bit of public shaming will fix that... Dear Lyft marketing person who wrote this: we are a data labeling com…

These should probably be deleted.

Re: Lyft releases self-driving research dataset

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Post by rubyfan » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 2:12 AM UTC

cardigan wrote: post #13

(I work at scale) Hmm this blog post and the website doesn't mention that this dataset was mostly annotated by Scale (scale.ai), as part of a partnership with Lyft ... We're going to publish a blog post about this soon, but if anyone at Lyft is reading this, please figure out how to reasonably credit Scale since I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement. Scale should…

If you are an officer of scale you should take this offline. If not then you’re probably not authorized to speak on behalf of scale. Check your NDAs and service agreements. This is in such poor taste, anyone who would consider scale’s service now has to consider this sort of public commentary.