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Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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post #12

Seems like they could use the 2nd amendment there.

Yes, more guns is always the solution !!! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/2010_hom...

North Korea has very few gun deaths. I am pretty sure people would trade a slightly higher gun death rate for actual freedom.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't imagine how they may get any other outcome. There is one person who has made himself a big single point of failure for China.

Who?

I assume he's referring to emperor Xi. I don't think it's correct to consider him a single point of failure though.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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This follows protesters' siege of The Liaison Office of the Central People's Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. PS: I'm just stating a fact not endorsing anyone here. The "siege" of CCP office is a very bad move. They are hurting the face of the mainland, provided excuses and received the ruthless response this political machine was designed to do.

It also follows the birth of Jesus and the battle of Gallipoli. Your point being?

The siege happened yesterday, and Chinese mouthpieces and websites are calling it a blatant provocation on sovereignty by thugs.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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post #12

Seems like they could use the 2nd amendment there.

Yes, more guns is always the solution !!! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/2010_hom...

Regardless of what you think of 2A, this is exactly the sort of situation it was designed to address. In Hong Kong, you have a completely unarmed population demanding democracy. Being oppressed by an (in the particular case, arguably foreign) government, with a long history of slaughtering unarmed populations who demand democracy.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

#28

Seems like they could use the 2nd amendment there.

The progressives in HN downvote you, but the truth is that being able to use violence to protect your individual freedoms is instrumental to democracy. Few places can boast the level of stability that EEUU has had in the last 150 years. Many were taken over by tyrants and armed mobs, than eventually chose their tyrant. It's no coincidence that in Venezuela the regime disarmed the people with a law that according to them was meant to protect them.

The 2nd amendment is vital, don't let anyone make you think otherwise.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

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post #6
post #2

Lots of footage with clear faces, shouldn’t be very difficult to put names next to those. Does anyone know of any co-ordinated efforts to do so?

Is that really the right course of action, given the protests are a push back against China asserting control and surveillance over HK's citizens?

The protests are over a law allowing China to extradite people without any process.

Also government mass surveillance and identifying people who were recorded in public by a citizen commiting violence aren't the same thing. I wish I didn't have to explain this.

Re: Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

#30

Seems like they could use the 2nd amendment there.

That is exactly the reason the 2nd Amendment exists in the US constitution. It certainly wasn’t to protect target shooting and hunting, but to protect against precisely the sort of oppression happening in Hong Kong. Governments should fear the people, not the other way around. The 2nd Amendment is a check on tyranny. Those that are downvoting the parent, what’s the solution? In China, you can’t protest your way to fr…

Does the US government fear its own people ?

From the outside, it seems that police equipment escalated to get army grade vehicles and weapons, and the army has been to enough wars involving fighting civilians that they could crush most opposition in a matter of days.

Then what's happening in HK is masked "civilians" committing crimes, so the manifestant reacting to them with violence would also fall on the illegal side and it would be game for the police to intervene openly as strongly as they want.

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