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Re: Abandoned America

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I grew up in Detroit, and detroiturbex.com was the first ruins porn site I remember looking at. It even has a before-and-after picture[0] of my locker at the (now demolished) Cass Tech! [0] http://detroiturbex.com/content/schools/cass/thenandnow/img/...

I loved Detriot Funk too - introduced me to Urban Exploring - which I've never done enough of! https://detroitfunk.com/rear-view-mirror/

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

It's also just how big the US is. The 48 contiguous states are more than 4 times the land area of the EU. In many cases areas with booms will expand to fill a lot of space only to collapse afterwards, with no core to hold things together.

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

You have plenty of areas in Europe where nothing happens too. There are areas in East Germany, Italy or Spain where the only option for young people is to leave.

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If you're interested in the industrial sites as I am, you might find it interesting to know that the New Jersey Zinc in Palmerton, PA once had two sites: the now demolished West Plant, shown in pictures on the site, and the remaining East Plant. The East Plant and the damage it has wrought are famously described in Bill Bryson's book A Walk in the Woods[0]. It's still standing just north of the ridge the Appalachian…

Wow, never thought I’d see Palmerton mentioned on HN! I grew up in Slatington, on the other side of the river/mountain from Palmerton, and the difference between the side of the mountain facing us and the side facing Palmerton was so bleak and obvious to anyone who hiked there or even looked at the mountain. Yet half the people over in Palmerton seemed to be against recognizing the disaster. changing anything and cleaning anything up, even though they were basically poisoning themselves. Probably “Because Jobs”. I also remember the Zinc factory being pretty stinky, too. Charming little town but what an environmental catastrophe!

Last time I drove through, about a year ago, the mountain looked a little better but the scars are still clear. I doubt the mountain will ever recover fully—at least within the timeframe of human habitation on Earth.

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

Americans tend to relocate very often, relatively speaking to the rest of the world, IIRC.

I think there may be some inherent sample biasing going on. I’m here because some European dude a few generations ago decided to move halfway around the world for a chance at a different opportunity, and I’d bet that influenced the risk tolerance of his kids as well.

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What an amazing site! It makes me sad seeing the places near where I live (Taunton Hospital and the abandoned T trolleys)... thanks for posting.

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

Americans tend to relocate very often, relatively speaking to the rest of the world, IIRC. I think there may be some inherent sample biasing going on. I’m here because some European dude a few generations ago decided to move halfway around the world for a chance at a different opportunity, and I’d bet that influenced the risk tolerance of his kids as well.

You seem to be forgetting that that also generally requires some European gal to come over, too. That's a lot more risk tolerance!

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

In the US, development has been very car-centric leading to places that are very very expensive to maintain if there isn't a solid local economy providing a good tax base. In Europe, this is far less of a problem.

Re: Abandoned America

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From an European perspective Americans have a much more "if it's broke, leave" perspective. It may be to do with a expansive Western Mythos ("Go West young man"), or with extreme poverty forcing a move ala the dustbowl, or simply that regional differences are low (same language, laws, licensing and currency from coast to coast) I am not sure if it is a good thing or not - but a huge amount of the problems with States…

In the US, development has been very car-centric leading to places that are very very expensive to maintain if there isn't a solid local economy providing a good tax base. In Europe, this is far less of a problem.

This is the Strong Towns argument?
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