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As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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Basically a summary: 1. Focuses mostly on Nashville 1. Cities that have a young urban population with job creation that isn't tied to old industries are thriving. 2. Nashville has no State Income tax, and most cities and states that have no State Income tax are doing well as remote work takes over and tech workers relocate to take advantage. 3. Mention building a convention center for $600MM but no real numbers on wh…

Isn't part of the purpose of the article that: in order to "catch up", lagging cities would need federal intervention.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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So if I understand the article correctly the cities that succeeded were the ones that allowed for new industries and businesses to flourish whereas the ones lagging are ones that were built on traditional manufacturing industries that have since dried up in the face of foreign competition and automation. Am I missing something? That seems pretty obvious to me that the industries that wouldn't recover jobs from a rece…

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Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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Don't forget cities that have influxes of young population so have increasing tax receipts but much lower legacy costs (retirees, infrastructure maintenance, stable growth rate education costs per capita). Most of those cities will mismanage the growth and 20-40 years from now you'll be reading about Nashville and how it was gutted when the software jobs dried up. These come in cycles and cities that have some sort o…

Any particular analysis of this you're familiar with?

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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post #20

Don't forget cities that have influxes of young population so have increasing tax receipts but much lower legacy costs (retirees, infrastructure maintenance, stable growth rate education costs per capita). Most of those cities will mismanage the growth and 20-40 years from now you'll be reading about Nashville and how it was gutted when the software jobs dried up. These come in cycles and cities that have some sort o…

This is a bad take. You're assuming that incoming folks won't change the politics of funding decisions of the city. In most cases, they do change them, and change cities for the better.

Do you have an example of that? Perhaps I’m biased being in LA and SF but those city budgets seem irreplaceable broken. Infinite amounts to pensions while no one can propose viable fixes to problems.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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I don't see anything special to US in that phenomenon. I'd even say that US is notably better than most of the world in keeping its 2nd tier cities alive economically. Most of Asia had that problem for decades, where only 1st tier cities had market for jobs above the "better than nothing" level. It is either USA becoming more like Asia here, after few decades lag, or it is American second tier cities actually sliding…

The mechanism isn't US-specific.

The analysis is.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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>But interviews with entrepreneurs and officials in Nashville point to a mix of factors behind its success, including some that were out of the city’s control, such as the state’s lack of an income tax, and others associated with its unique local assets.

NYC and SF, both big tech hubs, both have income taxes.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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Perez's Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital makes the point that when a technological revolution occurs, gains are frequently concentrated in a small number of locales that are the first to adopt the new technology and adapt their local industries to the new structure of the economy. This results in significant economic (short term), military (medium term), and geopolitical (long term) power. The changing power balance usually sparks a war and a realignment of the global order.

In the industrial revolutions of the 19th and early 20th centuries, though, nation states usually adopted the new technologies en masse, with the whole nation sharing in the gains. So you had rising nations like Britain, America, Prussia, and Japan which could challenge declining empires like Austria-Hungary, Russia, China, and the Ottomans.

This technological revolution is different, because you have specific parts of nations that are adapting to the new technologies and thriving, while other parts get left behind and see the power they had wilt away. There's relatively little historical precedent for this; the only ones I can think of might be the decline of the Roman empire (where the Eastern Mediterranean remained up-to-date and civilized, while the Northern European hinterlands disintegrated and broke up) and the American Civil War (where the industrial North conquered the agrarian South). And this pattern isn't just U.S-based: China also has a dramatic disparity in wealth & power between coastal cities and the inland hinterland, as well as one between the high-tech South (centered around Shenzhen and the Pearl River Delta) and more politically powerful North (around Beijing).

I don't know exactly what it means, but I don't think it bodes well for either of the major global superpowers.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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post #20

Don't forget cities that have influxes of young population so have increasing tax receipts but much lower legacy costs (retirees, infrastructure maintenance, stable growth rate education costs per capita). Most of those cities will mismanage the growth and 20-40 years from now you'll be reading about Nashville and how it was gutted when the software jobs dried up. These come in cycles and cities that have some sort o…

This is a bad take. You're assuming that incoming folks won't change the politics of funding decisions of the city. In most cases, they do change them, and change cities for the better.

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Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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Don't forget cities that have influxes of young population so have increasing tax receipts but much lower legacy costs (retirees, infrastructure maintenance, stable growth rate education costs per capita). Most of those cities will mismanage the growth and 20-40 years from now you'll be reading about Nashville and how it was gutted when the software jobs dried up. These come in cycles and cities that have some sort o…

Any particular analysis of this you're familiar with?

No, just anecdote from my own lifetime and observations. I would just say the 2nd paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_costs is essentially the same thing I'm talking about.

Re: As U.S. 'superstar' cities thrive, weaker ones get left behind

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post #20

Don't forget cities that have influxes of young population so have increasing tax receipts but much lower legacy costs (retirees, infrastructure maintenance, stable growth rate education costs per capita). Most of those cities will mismanage the growth and 20-40 years from now you'll be reading about Nashville and how it was gutted when the software jobs dried up. These come in cycles and cities that have some sort o…

This is a bad take. You're assuming that incoming folks won't change the politics of funding decisions of the city. In most cases, they do change them, and change cities for the better.

I have not seen much of this positivity, that is people voting against their immediate interests to embrace long term change and saving for a different future.

People vote for things which are better for themselves and for social issues they identify with, but rarely for things which actually cost them something.

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