Arctic Summer Melt Shows Ice Is Disappearing Faster Than Normal

Post by munin » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 4:27 PM UTC

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mistrial9 wrote: post #6

in the 2007 time-frame, the US National Snow and Ice Science Center showed up en-masse in California and were flipping out about ice changes, semi-desperate to find some way to communicate to the public about it. Post-"Inconvenient Truth" and early days of Twitter, the idea that if "somehow, someway, people could know about this" things would get better faster, was the knee-jerk idea amongst people who were immersed…

Do what ? Normal people can't do anything worthwhile. Unless you're in a position to personally bankroll the research and buildout of fusion power (hi, Jeff) the only thing you can do at this late date is get in the face of your government representatives: Jam up their phone lines, sit in at their offices, back primary challengers who will address the problem.

Post by bobthepanda » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 4:28 PM UTC

ForHackernews wrote: post #11

bobthepanda wrote: post #9

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He hasn’t really been an effective governor of Washington, and his biggest legislative accomplishment is the largest tax break ever given to a corporation (til possibly Amazon) to a company that still ended up sending jobs away. He talks a lot of talk but he doesn’t walk the walk.

Who cares? He's not going to win but he can force the issue in the debates.

Post by saagarjha » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 4:30 PM UTC

GuiA wrote: post #14

ForHackernews wrote: post #10

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Do what ? Normal people can't do anything worthwhile. Unless you're in a position to personally bankroll the research and buildout of fusion power (hi, Jeff) the only thing you can do at this late date is get in the face of your government representatives: Jam up their phone lines, sit in at their offices, back primary challengers who will address the problem.

I’ve been to a number of museum presentations, general audience scientific talks, etc recently where the speaker presents the evidence for climate change, future predictions, etc., and their main takeaway is “try to drive your car less and check out this website to see how you can curb your CO2 emissions!”. It makes me so mad.

Post by adrianN » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

Aloha wrote: post #24

ForHackernews wrote: post #10

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Do what ? Normal people can't do anything worthwhile. Unless you're in a position to personally bankroll the research and buildout of fusion power (hi, Jeff) the only thing you can do at this late date is get in the face of your government representatives: Jam up their phone lines, sit in at their offices, back primary challengers who will address the problem.

We could just build fission power plants, they're reasonably safe, not too expensive and we know how to store the waste safely, heck - we've built a place to store it, but until there is political will to overcome the NIMBYism of not wanting to live in the next potential Pripyat (no matter how remote that risk is) nothing will change, except the climate of course.

Post by klenwell » Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

munin wrote: post #21

ForHackernews wrote: post #10

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Do what ? Normal people can't do anything worthwhile. Unless you're in a position to personally bankroll the research and buildout of fusion power (hi, Jeff) the only thing you can do at this late date is get in the face of your government representatives: Jam up their phone lines, sit in at their offices, back primary challengers who will address the problem.

> the only thing you can do Don’t have kids.

  They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
     They may not mean to, but they do.
  They fill you with the faults they had
     And add some extra, just for you.

  But they were fucked up in their turn
    By fools in old-style hats and coats,
  Who half the time were soppy-stern
    And half at one another’s throats.

  Man hands on misery to man.
    It *melts off* like *an artic* shelf.
  Get out as early as you can,
    And don’t have any kids yourself.