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Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

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Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

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Fun fact -> They offered this because they were getting such good returns (greater than 8%) through Bernie Madoff, and figured they could just pay off the contract interest through that

The Bernie Madoff connection is, by far, the most interesting part about the Bobby Bonilla salary deferral contract. Its truly a shame TFA didn't mention it.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-mets-are-paying-bobby-...

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#24
post #5

Einstein something, something, compound interest. Amazing what saving money at an 8% interest rate will do for your future self! The S&P has only returned 4.8% CAGR [1] from 2000-2018 so that was a pretty tremendous ROI for Bonilla. [1] - http://www.moneychimp.com/features/market_cagr.htm

I guess the real comparison is whether the Mets could have raised $5.9 in debt back in 1999 on better terms

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#25

fwiw Mets Payroll in 1999 - 71,506,427 5,900,000/71,506,427 = 8.25% of payroll --------- Mets Payroll 2011 120,147,310 1,193,248/120,147,310 = 0.99% of payroll ---------- Mets Payroll 2018 $154.61M 1,193,248/154,610,000 = 0.77% of payroll ------- also fwiw, not sure we can trace exactly how efficiently the Mets spent the $5.9 million they saved in 1999, but the Mets won 97 games that year, the next year they won 94 a…

At one point in time (2013), Bobby Bonilla and Jason Bay were the two highest paid outfielders for the Mets, and neither of them were on the team. This occurred in the middle of a six-year sub-0.500 stretch. They probably could have used the $1.2M better than that.

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

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It was the worst negotiation in sports history, yes. But far worse contracts have been signed. A bad NBA contract (some that obviously bad at the moment of signing) can easily pay $30M in 2 years to a player who essentially doesn't play at all. Which the teams then pay to dump on other teams (the NBA salary cap creates a fascinating market).

My favorite is the NBA agreeing to pay a percentage of TV revenue in perpetuity to the owners of the ABA team Spirits of St. Louis when the leagues merged. The NBA gave the other ABA teams that they weren't taking $3M but the Spirits held out. The NBA paid out $300M before finally buying them out for $500M in 2014. https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2014/01/07/the-nba-f...

Interesting twist: those owners also lost a heap of money with Madoff!

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#27
Haven't heard of this until today.

Does anyone know what happens to the yearly payouts if Bobby dies between now and the last scheduled payment? Does it go to his beneficiaries until the 25 years runs its course or does the contract terminate on the year he dies?

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#28
post #5

Einstein something, something, compound interest. Amazing what saving money at an 8% interest rate will do for your future self! The S&P has only returned 4.8% CAGR [1] from 2000-2018 so that was a pretty tremendous ROI for Bonilla. [1] - http://www.moneychimp.com/features/market_cagr.htm

"The S&P has only returned 4.8% CAGR [1] from 2000-2018 so that was a pretty tremendous ROI for Bonilla."

Anytime I read about this contract (and it comes up every year or so, somewhere) I wonder if Bonilla sold off his interest in the contract in return for a lump payment.

That's a very common arrangement and I never hear whether or not he did that ...

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#29

fwiw Mets Payroll in 1999 - 71,506,427 5,900,000/71,506,427 = 8.25% of payroll --------- Mets Payroll 2011 120,147,310 1,193,248/120,147,310 = 0.99% of payroll ---------- Mets Payroll 2018 $154.61M 1,193,248/154,610,000 = 0.77% of payroll ------- also fwiw, not sure we can trace exactly how efficiently the Mets spent the $5.9 million they saved in 1999, but the Mets won 97 games that year, the next year they won 94 a…

At one point in time (2013), Bobby Bonilla and Jason Bay were the two highest paid outfielders for the Mets, and neither of them were on the team. This occurred in the middle of a six-year sub-0.500 stretch. They probably could have used the $1.2M better than that.

Probably not. $1.2MM doesn't buy you much baseball player.

Re: Bobby Bonilla's 25-Year Contract with The New York Mets (2011)

#30

It was the worst negotiation in sports history, yes. But far worse contracts have been signed. A bad NBA contract (some that obviously bad at the moment of signing) can easily pay $30M in 2 years to a player who essentially doesn't play at all. Which the teams then pay to dump on other teams (the NBA salary cap creates a fascinating market).

I don't see how it was even a particularly bad contract, let alone the "worst in sports history".

Borrowing money at 8% is a pretty reasonable commercial lending rate for the time (30-year fixed mortgages were only a couple points lower).

So, they took out a $5.9MM loan from Bonilla to pay Bonilla, accrued interest for 11 years without making any payments, and then started paying it off on a 25 year amortization schedule, all at 8% interest.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wWMBl9YsLfjC3A6A_ZI6...

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