There's a great horror novel called The Fisherman by John Langan that heavily involves fishing and the catharthic solitude it can bring, even (or especially) in times of tragedy or stress. I highly recommend it, but besides that, this piece reinforces to me that the author of The Fisherman was conveying some wider and real truth in that. Coupled with beautiful scenery and good weather, fishing can become transcendental somehow.
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#22In the comment section was “learn to code.” Totally Insensitive... and not that I agree, but nonetheless close to the point. The consolidation and automation of news is here to stay, and not just journalists/writers — all of us, in fact — need to be very careful to learn the new skills it takes to compete in an increasingly automated world.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if it's part of the social contract that everything society provided to get you here, one of the many payments is you have to stick around and be part of society for the next young you. I'm thinking about: what would happen if droves of people fled into the forest to live. Could society function without them? How many?
I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra. My main issue is not with societal contract. It's with the notion that we're somehow "free" when we're most certainly not free. Stop paying the state and men with guns will show up on your door st…
> I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra.
A lot of these people would come crawling back to the civilization begging for help if their life depended on it. Which it probably will as they get older and sick. On a large scale, millions of people who contributed nothing to the society, but then demand expensive medical help would not work well.
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#24In the comment section was “learn to code.” Totally Insensitive... and not that I agree, but nonetheless close to the point. The consolidation and automation of news is here to stay, and not just journalists/writers — all of us, in fact — need to be very careful to learn the new skills it takes to compete in an increasingly automated world.
A dozen years from now, I'll be reading on HN(Health insurers' New - or a message board for professionals of some other parasitic tumour which still has a few years of decent living in our economy) a comment about how the consolidation, commodification, and semi-automation of programming is here to stay, and that not just software engineers - but all of us, in fact - need to be very careful to learn the new skills it takes to compete in an increasingly automated world.
Why one of those new skills is never 'march your politicians out, and make them mandate a 25-hour work week, to guarantee that anyone capable of working is able to find moderately dignified and remunerative work', is a question that will continue to haunt me.
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#25In the comment section was “learn to code.” Totally Insensitive... and not that I agree, but nonetheless close to the point. The consolidation and automation of news is here to stay, and not just journalists/writers — all of us, in fact — need to be very careful to learn the new skills it takes to compete in an increasingly automated world.
A dozen years from now, I'll be reading on HN(Health insurers' New - or a message board for professionals of some other parasitic tumour which still has a few years of decent living in our economy) a comment about how the consolidation, commodification, and semi-automation of programming is here to stay, and that not just software engineers - but all of us, in fact - need to be very careful to learn the new skills it…
If a job is guaranteed by the government under all circumstances, I think you’ll find the worst of the worst in many cases for co-“workers”.
Many people would prefer to work 50+ hours/week for 15-20 years rather than 25 hours/week for 40-50 years.
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#26There is something truly therapeutic about fishing. It might be because it helps us connect back with our evolutionary roots - out in nature, focusing on the task at hand to the exclusion of all else, and then experiencing the dopamine rush that comes with a good catch.
I must be weird. I find fishing, sunning on the beach, sitting in a lawn chair, etc., extremely dull, and last about 5 minutes at it.
This was true for me long before the internet :-)
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#27In the comment section was “learn to code.” Totally Insensitive... and not that I agree, but nonetheless close to the point. The consolidation and automation of news is here to stay, and not just journalists/writers — all of us, in fact — need to be very careful to learn the new skills it takes to compete in an increasingly automated world.
Just...I mean, really?
You have to feed the troll ("orange man") from a different website? It's so irritating that this shit still needs explained to people.
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#28There is something truly therapeutic about fishing. It might be because it helps us connect back with our evolutionary roots - out in nature, focusing on the task at hand to the exclusion of all else, and then experiencing the dopamine rush that comes with a good catch.
I must be weird. I find fishing, sunning on the beach, sitting in a lawn chair, etc., extremely dull, and last about 5 minutes at it. This was true for me long before the internet :-)
> I must be weird. I find fishing, sunning on the beach, sitting in a lawn chair, etc., extremely dull, and last about 5 minutes at it.
I'm the same way, but for fishing it depends on the type of fishing. Bait/lure fishing I tire of quickly. But fly fishing was vastly different, at least the one time I did it. It seemed a bit more technical and required more focus and finesse.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra. My main issue is not with societal contract. It's with the notion that we're somehow "free" when we're most certainly not free. Stop paying the state and men with guns will show up on your door st…
> I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra. A lot of these people would come crawling back to the civilization begging for help if their life depended on it. Which it probably will as they get older and sick. On a large scale, millions of…
Most would not last very long I agree. But I don't think that those that find the hermit existence more to their liking (and can sustain such an existence for an extended period of time) would "come crawling back" or anything like that. Once my kid is out of the house, I don't really care about not kicking the bucket a little sooner if by doing so I could live out my last decade or two in peace and without having to deal with the daily stream of bovine manure that "civilization" entails.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra. A lot of these people would come crawling back to the civilization begging for help if their life depended on it. Which it probably will as they get older and sick. On a large scale, millions of…
Most would not last very long I agree. But I don't think that those that find the hermit existence more to their liking (and can sustain such an existence for an extended period of time) would "come crawling back" or anything like that. Once my kid is out of the house, I don't really care about not kicking the bucket a little sooner if by doing so I could live out my last decade or two in peace and without having to…
Quick death in old age is one of the better scenarios. Worse things are: chronic pain, slowly losing ability to function (be it neurological or just joints giving up etc.) and also witnessing the same things in your spouse. Traditional cultures deal with it to a degree by children taking care of sick/senile parents, but here it won’t be the case.