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How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by Deimorz »

blunte wrote: post #11
prklmn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://outline.com/J6Du4y

Outline is awesome for as long as it works. It's only a matter of time before it is effectively blocked by the content capturing sites. I know it's a bit of a rant, but we shouldn't need Outline to make the web useful. Thankfully it exists as an option, but that's like needing antibiotics because every time we go shopping we get cut 1,000 times by the doorways to the stores we try to shop at...

It's already starting to fail on some of the major sites. Recently it's stopped working on the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and a couple of others that I can't remember offhand.

Interestingly, the blocking seems to be on the Outline end, because the site says "We're sorry, but this URL is not supported by Outline" if you try to use it on an article from one of those sites (example: https://outline.com/WytaqY). The message when scraping a page fails is "We're sorry. This page failed to Outline."

So it's not that the sites themselves have figured out how to block it, but they seem to have gotten Outline to specifically exclude them.

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by diN0bot »

personlurking wrote: post #18

Great post Is there a general ratio for how much audio you record per session vs how long your average podcast episode is? Do you cut, say, 25% or something like that? They seem to run 40-50 minutes, from checking your site. Would going the Patreon route (since your podcast is ad-free now) be viable?

I'm interested in this, too.

Also, it seems like there are still ways to receive some revenue from creating useful content that thousands of people are interested in. Not because the money is so important, but because there are parts of community engagement that are fun to do and feel rewarding, and there are other parts that can be contracted.

I didn't understand the "make a media company" or nothing aspect considering he is still podcasting as a fun hobby anyway.

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by hashberry »

Loved the ending. Self-disclosure is a big part of humanistic psychology. Sidney Jourard[0] explored this in depth:

You cannot collaborate with another person toward some common end unless you know him. How can you know him, and he you, unless you have engaged in enough mutual disclosure of self to be able anticipate how he will react and what part he will play?

If we want to be loved, we must disclose ourselves. If we want to love someone, he must permit us to know him. This would seem to be obvious. Yet most of us spend a great part of our lives thinking up ways to avoid becoming known. Indeed, much of human life is best described as impersonation. We are role players, every one of us.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Jourard

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by ggm »

A hidden threat in this, is that podcasting can look like journalism to many economies. If you "report" on current affairs in any way, you can fall into the trap.

Mainstream broadcasters are always super-careful when staff are sent to the USA, to get the right visa. If the staffer just goes to the USA, they have to make damn sure they don't return to work, even if they take that call about some story, there is a risk: If you entered the US on a tourist visa but always intended interviewing somebody, you're working as a journalist.

They can, and do, chuck you out of the country. And returns get hard once you have to say YES on the forms about "...have you ever...."

I don't think the USA is unique in this regard. Lots of economies, western, democratic, and otherwise do not want people to casually "just do it" -you need to front up about what you do sometimes.

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by tome »

ggm wrote: post #24

A hidden threat in this, is that podcasting can look like journalism to many economies. If you "report" on current affairs in any way, you can fall into the trap. Mainstream broadcasters are always super-careful when staff are sent to the USA, to get the right visa. If the staffer just goes to the USA, they have to make damn sure they don't return to work, even if they take that call about some story, there is a risk…

Just curious: why would you use the word "economies" rather than "states", or perhaps less formally "countries"?

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by alexis_fr »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #14
blunte wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I share your frustration, particularly with Medium (and a true sense of dismay at those who choose to publish their effort on Medium's platform). TFA was great, and I'm motivated to pursue my podcast idea (not for money, but because I think it would be interesting). But I just don't get why people put their creative content on Medium. Does it actually add value (bring more readers?) Seems to me it will discourage som…

If I understand correctly Medium charges both readers and publishers for a service that you can get free elsewhere? Does that sum it up?

Let’s say the service is to get the audience to the content... and it’s not a very simple problem to solve.

HN does it very well, btw.

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by Causality1 »

There's usually a distinct change in tone when podcast hosts start keeping "revenue stream" at, if not the front, at least the back of their mind. I'm certain there are exceptions and I certainly don't begrudge anyone the desire to make money, but at the same time there are no podcasts I listen to whose best episodes weren't at the beginning of their run before the advertisers came.

Re: How I made money podcasting and why you probably don't want to

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Post by kranner »

ggm wrote: post #24

A hidden threat in this, is that podcasting can look like journalism to many economies. If you "report" on current affairs in any way, you can fall into the trap. Mainstream broadcasters are always super-careful when staff are sent to the USA, to get the right visa. If the staffer just goes to the USA, they have to make damn sure they don't return to work, even if they take that call about some story, there is a risk…

This is true in general for digital nomads, whether they blog/podcast or even just freelance, a lot of whom continue to work a few months at a time in foreign locales on tourist visas. I've seen their blogs refer to visas as a gray area. I'm pretty sure this is a mistake.
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