Remove the Google logo from the Golang website • Hacker News Board

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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Post by jart » Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 10:58 AM UTC

danpalmer wrote: post #2

I’m quite far from the ongoing Go community discussions, but this seems to be a perfect example? > We’ve discusses this internally and decided... As one commenter on the PR points out, they’ve discussed it internally, now it’s time to discuss as a community, but this issue has still been closed. I don’t have an opinion on the actual topic here, but if Google don’t want to be perceived as doing whatever they like with…

I agree, it's just that the folks who are stirring up drama, they don't represent the Go community. Google does. They're the ones who speak up and stand up for the whole community, many of whom aren't allowed to have a public voice in these matters by their employers. That's what the logo represents. It doesn't mean "this language is google's" but rather "google works for you."

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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Post by znpy » Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 4:03 PM UTC

If the community wants to have a say in go's future without Google's veto, then the community should just fork the code and move ahead.

Otherwise it's still Google's thing.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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Post by amerine » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 4:16 AM UTC

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #17

amerine wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not the OPs point, at all. Nobody disagrees with or does not appreciate Google for their Go support, OP (rightly, imo) calls out that it’s a bit disingenuous to call it a “community” when “internal” continues to get thrown about on relation to language decisions.

A small logo in the bottom-right corner of the website is not a "language decision".

I would say that a community member disagreeing with the logo being there getting shutdown because of “internal” decisions is exactly a “language decision”. The “language” stewardship includes the spec, the code && the community, none of it exists in isolation.

FWIW, I’m totally 100% cool with the logo. Make it fucking huge and marquee that baby. I do think the way this issue went down is total trash tho.

Re: Remove the Google logo from the Golang website

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Post by Carpetsmoker » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:35 PM UTC

amerine wrote: post #23

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A small logo in the bottom-right corner of the website is not a "language decision".

I would say that a community member disagreeing with the logo being there getting shutdown because of “internal” decisions is exactly a “language decision”. The “language” stewardship includes the spec, the code && the community, none of it exists in isolation. FWIW, I’m totally 100% cool with the logo. Make it fucking huge and marquee that baby. I do think the way this issue went down is total trash tho.

I don't know, I think a lot of people in the Go team are really tired of this whole "you never listen to the community!!!1!" line. Repeating the same discussion over and over again with random strangers on the internet gets ... very tired, very fast.