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Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by jnbiche »

clemensley wrote: post #16

I do not understand why everybody is hating the guy so much. Listen to what he sais. He does not want Bitcoin to be used for buying drugs and child pornography. He wants to use it to make companies more accountable towards their users and governments more accountable towards their constituents. What's so terrible about that? Then there is his claim to be Satoshi. At this point, nobody knows if that is true or not. Ye…

There are very few situations in which a person who claims to be a previously anonymous individual could prove their bona fides without a shadow of a doubt.

And this is one of those situations. There are multiple ways that the real Satoshi could prove their identity, but somehow, Craig Wright has either lost of of them, or they're locked up in some strange escrow with a super-secret board of lawyers or some such nonsense.

Occam's Razor. If ever there was a good application of the principle, it's here.

Also, Craig Wright doesn't have the technical understanding to have written the Bitcoin implementation. Listen to him speak. If you're honest with yourself, and if you code, you'll realize that he's likely never written much running code at all, much less a full implementation of a complex cryptographic and network protocol.

But these are the kinds of guys who unfortunately make it past interviews on the strength of their "dazzle'em with bullshit" approach to interviewing, and that have caused the current situation where most of us have to spend months reviewing our DS and algorithms notes before new interviews.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by BubRoss »

clemensley wrote: post #16

I do not understand why everybody is hating the guy so much. Listen to what he sais. He does not want Bitcoin to be used for buying drugs and child pornography. He wants to use it to make companies more accountable towards their users and governments more accountable towards their constituents. What's so terrible about that? Then there is his claim to be Satoshi. At this point, nobody knows if that is true or not. Ye…

Innocent until proven guilty is when the state is going to imprison you and dictate every moment of your life.

If I said I invented cold fusion, would you ask me to prove it first, or give me 300 million in venture capital?

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

drcode wrote: post #19
clemensley wrote: post #16

I do not understand why everybody is hating the guy so much. Listen to what he sais. He does not want Bitcoin to be used for buying drugs and child pornography. He wants to use it to make companies more accountable towards their users and governments more accountable towards their constituents. What's so terrible about that? Then there is his claim to be Satoshi. At this point, nobody knows if that is true or not. Ye…

You enjoy his incoherent free association of tech terms every time he speaks? Or is it just that the rest of us can't appreciate his genious-level ideas?

it's actually that you can't appreciate his genius level ideas.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by BubRoss »

nullc wrote: post #11
revscat wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It amazes me that a percentage of your percentage does so because to call out liars would be impolite and lead to discomfort.

Calling out fraudsters also gets you attacked and harassed and there is essentially nothing you can do to stop it.

Generally you only get attacked by those fraudsters.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by Lucadg »

jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

I guess it has to do with the fact that when organizing a conference many optimize for speakers attracting crowds rather than content.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by jnbiche »

nostrademons wrote: post #17
jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

It's also possible that the organizers of the conference know (or suspect) that he's a fraud, but invite him anyway because they know the controversy will generate buzz and attention around their conference, increasing its attendance.

That's entirely possible, and such an approach makes me despair even more of the Bitcoin community (and why I left it long ago).

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by Waterluvian »

jnbiche wrote: post #18
Waterluvian wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a feature, not a bug. Healthy communities are comprised of people who are trusting and permissive by default. The cost is that on occasion these communities will be exploited. Personally I think it's a very low price to pay for all its benefits.

> This is a feature, not a bug....Healthy communities are comprised of people who are trusting and permissive by default. It's entirely possible to find a happy medium. You can be trusting without being totally naive about individuals with bad intentions.

It's only that your community evolves to be less trusting because unfortunately it has to. So the happy medium is really just a sacrifice of a good trait for a less good one only because you have to.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by Lucadg »

jnbiche wrote: post #21
clemensley wrote: post #16

I do not understand why everybody is hating the guy so much. Listen to what he sais. He does not want Bitcoin to be used for buying drugs and child pornography. He wants to use it to make companies more accountable towards their users and governments more accountable towards their constituents. What's so terrible about that? Then there is his claim to be Satoshi. At this point, nobody knows if that is true or not. Ye…

There are very few situations in which a person who claims to be a previously anonymous individual could prove their bona fides without a shadow of a doubt. And this is one of those situations. There are multiple ways that the real Satoshi could prove their identity, but somehow, Craig Wright has either lost of of them, or they're locked up in some strange escrow with a super-secret board of lawyers or some such nons…

He's Satoshi but he lost the private key:)

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by BubRoss »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #23
drcode wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You enjoy his incoherent free association of tech terms every time he speaks? Or is it just that the rest of us can't appreciate his genious-level ideas?

it's actually that you can't appreciate his genius level ideas.

Which genius level idea specifically? I would love for someone to get technical here. The guy who claims to be Satoshi copied and pasted a hello world tutorial off the internet to show his C++ knowledge.

Re: Craig Wright faces tough questions over forged documents in court

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Post by garmaine »

Lucadg wrote: post #25
jnbiche wrote: post #4

The amazing things is that this guy -- an obvious fraud and conman -- has been invited to numerous high-level Bitcoin/Blockchain conferences as a speaker. It always stuns me how relatively few people are able to spot frauds (although it explains a lot about our current political situation). I'm guessing 40-50% of the population is susceptible to this kind of trickery.

I guess it has to do with the fact that when organizing a conference many optimize for speakers attracting crowds rather than content.

On the other hand, most bitcoin devs I know would specifically avoid a conference that made that mistake.
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