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Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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this would be great if it works as advertised! :D

It’s an MVP. It doesn’t have to work.

It's not MVP it's a Kite [0]. Minimum Viable Product is an actual "thing you can use", not mere concept. It's more than a prototype. The term implies it's something you can actually ship to customers.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_balloon

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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As others stated, the submitted title of "Ad-Free Internet by Firefox" overstates what this actually is: pay $4.99/month for ad-free experience on a handful of media publishers' websites[1].

(I.e. it's not a universal ad blocker that lets you avoid ads on Youtube.)

The Firefox webpage itself doesn't oversell the feature as "ad-free internet" so not sure why writing a misleading title for HN was necessary.

[1] https://scroll.com/sites

(Edit to also mention Scroll doesn't have some popular news sites such as NYT, Washington Post, WSJ, etc -- probably because getting a fraction of $4.99/month is not enough money for them and it competes with their direct digital subscriptions.)

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #3

If the same service could be used for paywalled news sites as well, this could be great

4.99 would not even cover the NY Times or WSJ alone.

but it's more than they're getting off the people that currently pay nothing ...

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #22

As others stated, the submitted title of "Ad-Free Internet by Firefox" overstates what this actually is: pay $4.99/month for ad-free experience on a handful of media publishers' websites[1]. (I.e. it's not a universal ad blocker that lets you avoid ads on Youtube.) The Firefox webpage itself doesn't oversell the feature as "ad-free internet" so not sure why writing a misleading title for HN was necessary. [1] https:/…

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #22

As others stated, the submitted title of "Ad-Free Internet by Firefox" overstates what this actually is: pay $4.99/month for ad-free experience on a handful of media publishers' websites[1]. (I.e. it's not a universal ad blocker that lets you avoid ads on Youtube.) The Firefox webpage itself doesn't oversell the feature as "ad-free internet" so not sure why writing a misleading title for HN was necessary. [1] https:/…

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

Ok, fair enough. Before I wrote my comment, I did perform a "view source" to search for "ad-free internet" and it wasn't found. However, if one uses F12 Developer Tools to inspect the DOM, it does have:

  "Ad-free Internet by Firefox"
It's interesting that that phrase is not visibly used and the big bold text people actually see just says "Support the sites you love, avoid the ads you hate".

EDIT to the replies: Yep got it. I can't see the title text on any tabs because they're too narrow when I have 50 tabs open.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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It looks like if you're a publisher you've partner up with Mozilla for this. Isn't this becoming a little dependent on Mozilla? Publishers are already dependent on Google and if Google wants to screw them over, they can. How is this different from that?

Publishers work with multiple ad networks to diversify their revenues, but the most they can diversify is around 30%.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

Ok, fair enough. Before I wrote my comment, I did perform a "view source" to search for "ad-free internet" and it wasn't found. However, if one uses F12 Developer Tools to inspect the DOM, it does have: " Ad-free Internet by Firefox " It's interesting that that phrase is not visibly used and the big bold text people actually see just says "Support the sites you love, avoid the ads you hate" . EDIT to the replies: Yep…

It's used in the tab / window heading which is pretty visible I'd say.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

Ok, fair enough. Before I wrote my comment, I did perform a "view source" to search for "ad-free internet" and it wasn't found. However, if one uses F12 Developer Tools to inspect the DOM, it does have: " Ad-free Internet by Firefox " It's interesting that that phrase is not visibly used and the big bold text people actually see just says "Support the sites you love, avoid the ads you hate" . EDIT to the replies: Yep…

It's the page title. It appears e.g. in the tab heading (but yours may be very small).
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