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Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Which a primate can fashion out of multiple foxes.

Have to catch them first...

Humans have the pretty nearly the best long-distance speed of any land animal, lots of things can out sprint us (which is bad for us if they are preying on us), but very few can evade sustained stalking by humans (which is bad for them if we're preying on them.)

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Walking a trail isn’t the same as walking cross country. Humans aren’t very good at off trail navigation.

Most aren't. Some are.

It's scary how inept people are in general at navigation. Telling the time and obtaining a rough compass heading by the position of the sun should be something anybody can do but surprisingly few people can do this.

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Does the bbc now have the modern clickbait intensifier generator as well? something that randomly adds "speechless", "your draw will drop", "what they dont want you to know" etc etc

I was going to point out that 'speechless' is a quote, but it appears to be just a (translated) quote from the linked article, not from the scientists themselves. Still, it's at least quoting someone else's clickbait.

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Have to catch them first...

Humans have the pretty nearly the best long-distance speed of any land animal, lots of things can out sprint us (which is bad for us if they are preying on us), but very few can evade sustained stalking by humans (which is bad for them if we're preying on them.)

True, but persistence hunting evolved in a hot climate. (Which is why we have other adaptations such as mostly-hairly skin to facilitate sweating.) Persistence hunting in the Arctic without the coat you're trying to catch would be a rather different matter.

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Most aren't. Some are.

It's scary how inept people are in general at navigation. Telling the time and obtaining a rough compass heading by the position of the sun should be something anybody can do but surprisingly few people can do this.

Human navigation is cultural. Urban culture (for better or worse) tends to cut people off from physical reality. Spend a few days with a Cape York indigenous person and find out how amazingly good people can get at this.

John Huth's The Lost Art of Finding Our Way is a good read for anyone interested in improving their navigation skills.

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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It’s fascinating to see.

But what about the plastic pollution as a result of this (from the GPS tracker that will now become permanent plastic garbage).

I don’t mean to say the pollution isn’t worth the fox study. But why isn’t anyone asking if it is?

Who determines, or at which point do we say, yes this study is worth creating this amount of pollution?

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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Most aren't. Some are.

It's scary how inept people are in general at navigation. Telling the time and obtaining a rough compass heading by the position of the sun should be something anybody can do but surprisingly few people can do this.

why? why do humans nowadays need this skill?

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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It’s fascinating to see. But what about the plastic pollution as a result of this (from the GPS tracker that will now become permanent plastic garbage). I don’t mean to say the pollution isn’t worth the fox study. But why isn’t anyone asking if it is? Who determines, or at which point do we say, yes this study is worth creating this amount of pollution?

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Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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post #27

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It's scary how inept people are in general at navigation. Telling the time and obtaining a rough compass heading by the position of the sun should be something anybody can do but surprisingly few people can do this.

why? why do humans nowadays need this skill?

For the same reason that you should be able to set up a tent, cook a meal, write some software and repair some piece of kit that you need. It's the kind of thing that comes in handy all the time. Of course you could rely on all kinds of technical gizmos to cover you but that stuff can break, run out of battery power, be lost and so on.

Good luck finding your way out of the national park with your empty phone.

Re: Scientists 'speechless' at Arctic fox's epic trek

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This makes me wonder: could a human who is totally attuned to this cold environment do the same thing at the same speed? This would mean not being able to get any supplies, carry clothing and tent if needed and basically live off the land. Can humans do that?
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