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China pressured London police to arrest Tiananmen protester, says watchdog

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Excuse my ignorance but in what way was the UK trying to appease Hitler? I only ever knew they fought Nazi Germany.

Short version from: German occupation of Czechoslovakia (1938) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslo...

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Coming from a free speech country I'm kinda curious about this. In the UK can they arrest you for peacefully protesting? I'm looking at the law the paper cites that he was arrested under[0][1]. 1) I'm ASTOUNDED that "insulting" was in there from 1986-2014. 2) This is extremely vague and seems like it could be used to arrest any protestor. > (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threa…

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Someone in the Home Office needs to be kicked out... rather than this false narrative of China strong arming the UK, to create manufactured consent against China. Someone in the Home Office bent over backwards to appease autocracy.

> Someone in the Home Office bent over backwards to appease autocracy. That sounds like a different spin on the exact same narrative to me. Which would appear to contradict your claim about this being a false narrative.

The difference is China made me do it vs. I chose to do it.

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Excuse my ignorance but in what way was the UK trying to appease Hitler? I only ever knew they fought Nazi Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

> The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of the British governments of Prime Ministers Ramsay MacDonald, Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy between 1935 and 1939.

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There was a parallel story in Denmark where the Danish police prevented free Tibet demonstrators demonstrating during the visit of the Chinese president in 2012. It led to an official inquiry but the trail ended blind where the leading police officers giving orders to detain the demonstrators could not remember where their instructions came from and the electronic paper trail had been deleted. To me the Danish story…

This reminds me of how China uses their panda’s for diplomatic reasons https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_diplomacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read similar stories about lost police documents. A public blockchain could be useful to prevent that.

The issue was not the internal communication within the police. For that there was a complete paper trail. But the top police officers got their instructions from somewhere; probably high ranking civil servants, spin doctors or maybe even politicians in the then government. Those communications were gone.

> “no officer had a case to answer for misconduct or gross misconduct.”

Pretty suggestive that in this case, the police were able to demonstrate a binding order from someone who was not an 'officer'.

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{China,USA} pressured London police to arrest political enemy, says watchdog The first time you compromise your principles is hard. Extraordinary circumstances, a special request in a special relationship, etc. The second time is easier…

I genuinely would like sources that the US was involved in the original articles information. I've yet to see such an accusation besides your single comment.

Edit: Oh... after reading your post history it all makes sense. ;)

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> Police watchdog investigators then found evidence that the Met’s treatment of Shao, one of the last protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, was influenced by pressure from Beijing to ensure Xi was not “embarrassed” by protests during his visit. I'd say no countries dare to not please China. Blatantly attacks the people who risk their lives to say.

Canada upset China recently and China reacted by arresting some of our people for espionage and executing a suspected Canadian drug dealer. I imagine our next election will have some cyber attacks against the liberals but we’ll see

If you are referring to Canada's arrest of Huawei's CFO for potential extradition to the US then that is a very different matter.

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> Police watchdog investigators then found evidence that the Met’s treatment of Shao, one of the last protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, was influenced by pressure from Beijing to ensure Xi was not “embarrassed” by protests during his visit. I'd say no countries dare to not please China. Blatantly attacks the people who risk their lives to say.

Canada upset China recently and China reacted by arresting some of our people for espionage and executing a suspected Canadian drug dealer. I imagine our next election will have some cyber attacks against the liberals but we’ll see

> executing a suspected Canadian drug dealer

I don't think he's been executed yet?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/05/08/asia-pacific/ca...

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