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Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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A greater fraction of people are creating text, photos, and video to be seen by other people than at any previous time in human history.

I guess it depends a lot on the question whether you call a short message about your neighbor's hairstyle or a photo of the food you are currently eating as "creation".

Sounds like modern art without the pretension to me.

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

Look at the number of musicians, photographers etc complaining they can't make a living nowadays because someone else is willing to do the same thing for free.

Nobody being creative you say?

Though I share skepticism on smartphones. Off to read a book to my daughter now.

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Betteridge's law: for any headline ending in a question, the answer is 'no'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headli...

It's surprising how actually effective it is when trying to determine if an article is going to be worth your time.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A greater fraction of people are creating text, photos, and video to be seen by other people than at any previous time in human history.

I guess it depends a lot on the question whether you call a short message about your neighbor's hairstyle or a photo of the food you are currently eating as "creation".

It is a creation, without a doubt, because a better term is an expression.

A better question is, is it art?

Is a gift in the form of a drawn picture for Father's or Mother's day?

Is Who's Afraid of Red, Yellow and Blue?

Is a laptop with a plethora of malware a work of art?

It may not live up to your standards of quality, but that's up to everyone themselves to decide.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

Meh, you could argue the same about game consoles, all the way to the Atari 2600.

At least, with phones, kids can talk to each other, write, take pictures, and eventually make apps. Try making an app on the Playstation.

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Looking at most of that data, a lot of this seems to be a combination of a tanking economy/jobs market/gig economy, and a technology that allows one to feel more connected without having to spend money to go out. The iPhone has worn the continuing echoes of late stage capitalism like a glove, and in the same way the homeless use drugs to make their shitty lives more bearable, it seems to me people are doing the same…

How is the economy tanking?

The article focuses on teens. What's a teenage summer job actually worth these days? It's not going to make any kind of dent in college tuition. And there really no need to get one if you aren't driving... (Which ties into other stats in the article.)

I opted out of driving in the late 90s because getting a shite car to go to a shite job to pay for the shite car looked like a terrible deal. The pay at the dairy queen hasn't gotten much better in the last twenty years, and it sounds like the kids aren't seeing the value in the car as much as my peers did.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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I don’t think it’s smartphones, I think it’s the fact that the entire ecosystem of our most used apps is a walled garden. Our entire experience is made up of proprietary corporate apps. We have little choice to change or create our own information flows - everything is dictated by hidden code/algorithms. If I can’t see the code, I am not the one doing the controlling, I am being controlled. The most detrimental app we all use - banking and money creation, is the most hidden and unchallenged one so far. We’re still using the legacy Industrial Age money and banking system.

I think it’s time that we evolve to a more compassionate world.

To help build the distributed, cooperative and open source economy check out The MetaCurrency Project (Ceptr, Holochain), Secure Scuttlebutt and Manyverse, DAT, Loomio, CoBudget and others

What does the ‘More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible’ (Charles Eisenstein) look like to you?

Does having a closed source system for our communication, banking and governance tools help keep the ‘smartest’ people at the helm, or is this grandiosity and immature magician energy? Does it create an oppressor, victim and savior triangle?

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More than a mental health crisis or go outside more, the biggest harm that social+smartphone has ever done is end of creating things . The new generation is spending huge amount of time in consumption and very little in creation. This is going to be a boon for the producers (book writers, movie makers etc) who will be in short supply for much larger consumption crowd. This will eventually be reflected in massive weal…

I say wait. I see this as a wave, and it's not only mainstream smartphone users. The whole world has seen decrease in craft. My father's generation did a lot more themselves, but large scale everything and offshore meant => buy everything at a store.

For instance, IIRC, MIT or CMU reopened glass making factories that were retired. They too felt that people need some tangible work for their own good.

Re: Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (2017)

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I think it really have destroyed the idea of how the previous generation think that the next generation should look like. I think we’re only in the beginning of a very different world the post WWII folks lived. People grow up much faster nowadays and are being exposed to things never thought of before. The next generations will do things differently, and unless we destroy ourselves, that’s a good thing.
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