To be at all interesting, this would have to have a good keyboard (as in the 2015 MBP), and an optional touchbar.
With the addition of iOS apps, would it be too much to ask for a touchscreen?
Do you ever consider ipad pro?
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#22To be at all interesting, this would have to have a good keyboard (as in the 2015 MBP), and an optional touchbar.
For what its worth, I just picked up the latest gen and the keyboard seems like a real improvement in both feel and noise. The Touch Bar still sucks, but I am happy with the keyboard.
I've got one of the latest ones too, I still think it sucks more than the 2015 ones.
I used to keep them on my desk partly as screen estate, now keep the lid closed, leave it under the desk and use a bluetooth keyboard in the hope it'll survive.
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#23If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.
I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead? It's not like my kitchen only fits Whirlpool or my garage only fits Honda.
Possibly software and accessories that only work with macOS.
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#24To be at all interesting, this would have to have a good keyboard (as in the 2015 MBP), and an optional touchbar.
I'm perfectly fine with it having a touchbar, if only there was a physical ESC button.
Real escape and full row of real F- keys. Just push the Touchbar above it, so we can power it down and ignore it (or run cute screensavers on it while plugged in).
The whole concept makes no sense. "Don't look at the computer's screen when you work, look down at your keyboard instead!" It is like an anti-touch typing gimmick, the tagline should be "become a worse typelist today!"
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#25If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.
Not sure I understand this. Apple means both hardware and software, are you cutting software and using linux on a macbook, or cutting hardware too and using on a windows machine?
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#26I'd be curious to know if Apple collects telemetry on touchbar usage. I don't use it. At all. I have it frozen to only show the equivalent physical keys that used to be there (esc and the fn keys). Does anyone use the touchbar effectively and like it? What are the chances of Apple ditching it on some models?
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#27Better keyboard and no touch bar would cause the MBP to be the undisputed champion of laptops. I have a 2019 MBP and love absolutely everything about it minus the keyboard, thank god the 13" has an option without the touch bar.
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#28It will hopefully contain a lot of features people asked for like a better keyboard, Face ID, more connectivity, etc. And just like the Mac Pro the starting price will probably be enormous, I wouldn't be surprised if the base model is $2.5K or more. And I wouldn't have problem with that at all. My 2015 Macbook Pro has been worth every penny. I used it every day and it's still going strong. Before I bought this MBP I…
Same. I bought and returned a few PCs, including a couple of Surface Pros. I actually like the feel of the new Macbook Pro keyboard, but I'm running into too many friends with missing or stuck keys. I'm still using my 2012 retina, and it has lasted an amazingly long time. I want that kind of craftsmanship. I also, like most, really do not like the touch bar.
The Surface Pro was an impressive feat of engineering, but was never a comfortable typing experience regardless. I would say the Surface Book legitimately has a super nice keyboard though, reminds me of the pre-2015 Macbooks in good ways.
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#29If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.
I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead? It's not like my kitchen only fits Whirlpool or my garage only fits Honda.
> I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead?
Chances are they have software installed on their machine. OSX has a vibrant ecosystem of independent developer and thus a pretty large number of bespoke good-quality software which might / would have to be replaced. Especially as cross-platform software tends to integrate less than well with the platform.
That goes double for older mac users, which have a higher tendency to use native software.
And of course one needs the time to adapt to different paradigms, shortcuts, facilities, … once again especially for older users of the platform for whom this becomes second nature.
Incidentally the points mix, the second one drives the first, I regularly notice cross-platform software which doesn't respond properly to Cocoa's text-movement shortcuts (even a simple C-a / C-e).
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#30If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.
Whoah Whoah they’re talking about getting rid of arrow keys?