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India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Almost all mobile phones come with dual-sim support. Some with the second sim tray being utilized as an External memory card slot/Sim card slot. This is pretty common all over SE Asia.

I’m asking about the need for 2-3 SIMs, not the capability. They’ve had them on phones for a while and it should become obsolete with eSIMs. The new iPhone features a physical SIM and an eSIM.

In this case, the capability is caused by a need. As the other person said, it's about optimizing between different special offers & discounts given by different mobile operators.

Source: Indonesian with family that needs two-sim cards phones.

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> Netflix, Amazon Prime Very few subscribe. Youtube would be the majority in my opinion. Hotstar too, but only during cricket matches. Local content on Youtube is on the rise. Example: Technical Guruji (A Hindi tech channel) has way more subscribers than MKBHD - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOhHO2ICt0ti9KAh-QHvttQ A Punjabi song is nearing a billion views : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpkJO_GrCo0 It is a larg…

> Technical Guruji (A Hindi tech channel) has way more subscribers than MKBHD From looking over it, he has more subscribers but way less views per video. MKBHD is easily over 2M views per video where Guruji never really breaches 1M views and seems to be around 400K per video.

The gap is closing real fast (views in the last 30 days)

MKBHD - 39 Million[0]

Technical Guruji - 41.5 Million[1]

[0] - https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/marquesbrownlee

[1] - https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCOhHO2ICt0ti9KAh-QH...

Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Jio revolution is the main reason for this, after Jio almost every other vendor is giving you 30Gb(1Gb per day) for $5-6 , no wonder, there is a %30-40 utilization of data. Majority of this utilization would be on Streaming, Torrent downloads etc etc, Also to note that , many of the calls made in India are VOLTE calls..

I totally agree with you. Even though Jio has blocked many torrent website, still people find holes to download the content. Normally people subscribe for the 1 or 1.5 GB/day plan, which was earlier very much affordable compared to other operators. Not others too have reduced their prices to stay in competition.

One advantage is that Jio was totally new to the market so they started with 4G networks directly. The connectivity, voice clarity and bandwidth was very good due to only-4G network. Other operators were are still working on 2G, 3G and 4G.

I had earlier worked for Jio for 5 years and I feel proud today that I contributed for the country - in allowing the easy access of data to public. I remember, before 6 years I used to get 1 GB data for Rs. 250. Today for the same amount I can nearly get 50 GB data.

My wife also worked for Jio and today is her last day. I feel very sad now.

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> Netflix, Amazon Prime Very few subscribe. Youtube would be the majority in my opinion. Hotstar too, but only during cricket matches. Local content on Youtube is on the rise. Example: Technical Guruji (A Hindi tech channel) has way more subscribers than MKBHD - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOhHO2ICt0ti9KAh-QHvttQ A Punjabi song is nearing a billion views : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpkJO_GrCo0 It is a larg…

> Netflix, Amazon Prime Can't say much about Amazon, but if Netflix keeps making more anti-hindu propaganda, very few will subscribe to them. It's amusing that the Americans and their cultural retainers believe the native traditions in the country will create a fascist state, when in-fact they have little religious freedom in their own nation.

> but if Netflix keeps making more anti-hindu propaganda

Have you actually seen Leila or are you simply parroting nonsense you heard from Twitter trolls?

> in-fact they have little religious freedom in their own nation.

Please tell me how on earth does America have little religious freedom?

Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Can someone explain why in countries with established infrastructure, automation and cheaper capital cost (albeit higher labor cost) the internet cost is around 10-20x more than in India? Additionally, it's often ~5x slower than in 2nd world countries...

Not sure this applies to everywhere, but I can talk about Romania (Eastern Europe) vs. Western Europe.

Romania has some of the best Internet in the world; as far as I recall, you can get 1Gbps for like 10-15 dollars in most non-rural areas. I think that's partly because of the huge amount of competition that was present in the early 00s, when we had a ridiculous amount of ISPs per city, and partly because all the cables are suspended on top of lampposts, as opposed to buried under the sidewalks and streets. That's way cheaper than digging half the city for new, higher-speed Internet.

Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Jio revolution is the main reason for this, after Jio almost every other vendor is giving you 30Gb(1Gb per day) for $5-6 , no wonder, there is a %30-40 utilization of data. Majority of this utilization would be on Streaming, Torrent downloads etc etc, Also to note that , many of the calls made in India are VOLTE calls..

Jio censors the web of its own volition including censoring torrents and porn websites [0]. And it is no secret that it does deep packet inspection and kind of has an extensive footprint via its numerous apps that I'd presume gather how much ever data that they can abt its customers.

[0] This has interestingly resulted in folks using Helo, Telegram et al to share pirated content and porn.

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For 6 dollars 50 cents, you get 1.5 GB/day for 91 days. Data-plans on offer: https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans And they manage to remain profitable (only-telco in India that reported profit this quarter) : https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/relian...

Holy crap, why am I paying $35/mo for 500mb? >.<

Where are you?

In Poland I pay ~ 13.30 USD for 12 GB per month (with additional 12 GB on top of that for 1 year) + unlimited calls/sms/mms. And my plan is pretty crappy in comparison to currently available ones.

Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Can someone explain why in countries with established infrastructure, automation and cheaper capital cost (albeit higher labor cost) the internet cost is around 10-20x more than in India? Additionally, it's often ~5x slower than in 2nd world countries...

One factor that helps operators in India is the massive subscriber base. Nearly a billion people ought to spread the high fixed costs of telco infra to a decent point.

Re: India has the highest data usage per smartphone

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Jio revolution is the main reason for this, after Jio almost every other vendor is giving you 30Gb(1Gb per day) for $5-6 , no wonder, there is a %30-40 utilization of data. Majority of this utilization would be on Streaming, Torrent downloads etc etc, Also to note that , many of the calls made in India are VOLTE calls..

I totally agree with you. Even though Jio has blocked many torrent website, still people find holes to download the content. Normally people subscribe for the 1 or 1.5 GB/day plan, which was earlier very much affordable compared to other operators. Not others too have reduced their prices to stay in competition. One advantage is that Jio was totally new to the market so they started with 4G networks directly. The con…

While I'm happy that Jio is leading the data war, I'm little concerned about the competition (which is non-existent at this point). May be I'm paranoid, but I'm using Jio Postpaid and would never go to JioFiber to give away all my data.
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