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They've made it. The Chief Executive apologized and the government has suspended the fugitive law amendment. That's really a RARE concession in these years because the Chinese government typically doesn't compromise at all under pressure.
It’s a bit sad feeling like this level of participation would never happen in the US. I’m not sure what the reason is, but likely a mix of being a highly individualistic society, apathy, distraction.
> this level of participation would never happen in the US It probably would. We just don’t have an issue that imminently and clearly threatens the wellbeing of 2/7ths of the population, and for which a simple solution ( e.g. withdrawing a bill) presents itself. When American cities get pissed off and form a consensus, they certainly turn out.
It’s a bit sad feeling like this level of participation would never happen in the US. I’m not sure what the reason is, but likely a mix of being a highly individualistic society, apathy, distraction.
They've made it. The Chief Executive apologized and the government has suspended the fugitive law amendment. That's really a RARE concession in these years because the Chinese government typically doesn't compromise at all under pressure.
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Couldn’t you say the same about any pair of counties without an extradition treaty? If an American flees to Russia, he’s “above the law” in America, for example. What makes HK so special that they must have an extradition treaty with China?
> What makes HK so special that they must have an extradition treaty with China? Apart from being a Chinese territory?
It’s a bit reductive to describe Hong Kong as a “Chinese territory.”
What do you think would happen if China attempted to forcefully annex Hong Kong?
It’s a bit sad feeling like this level of participation would never happen in the US. I’m not sure what the reason is, but likely a mix of being a highly individualistic society, apathy, distraction.
It’s a bit sad feeling like this level of participation would never happen in the US. I’m not sure what the reason is, but likely a mix of being a highly individualistic society, apathy, distraction.
Every article I see about the HK protests makes sure to focus on how non-violent the gathering was. I see many people framing that non-violence as a better way to affect change in their government. I sincerely hope that a non-violent protest gets these people the change they want, but I take real issue in framing violent protests as unnecessary when your historically oppressive government refuses to listen to the wil…
Violent protests in this case directly play into the hands of CCP and gets you PLA with HK Police uniforms on the streets. Also any change that comes through "gun" rarely turns into ballot friendly. Once armed the erst while "freedom" fighters will start fighting for their clan/class/tribe/interests.
The IRA in Ireland used plenty of guns and it helped them win real political power in a ballot friendly way.
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> As long as you can make it back to HK then you are above the law in Macau/mainland China/Taiwan Not sure what’s going on with this account’s posting history. That said, this allegation is false. Taiwan supports the protesters [1]. Taiwan and Hong Kong, both lawful jurisdictions, are free to enter into extradition agreements with each other. This extradition bill was a ham-fisted attempt by Beijing to subjugate Hong…
What I wrote is not an allegation. It is a fact as there is currently no extradition from HK to Macau/mainland China/Taiwan. The whole bill was brought forward because of a HK resident accused of murdering his girlfriend in Taiwan and who fled back to HK. You can say that this was a pretext to bring the bill forward but it still highlights a real issue. The Taiwanese government is being cynical here. It's also diffic…