Live data from Hacker News

WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

nautil.us

21–30 of 306 posts

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#21
How is the Chinese government with regards to IT quality?

I've come to believe that most governments are inept when it comes to the management, security and general quality of their software.

With the government holding so much critical information, it seems a very obvious and valuable target for hackers.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#22
post #19

> At 9:27, once I’ve brushed my teeth, answered a few messages, and wiped the sleep from my eyes, I order a coffee through WeChat. There’s a payments window on the app, and when you click on it you see various options, some proprietary to WeChat and some which are independent apps that run on WeChat’s platform. I open the Meituan delivery app and scroll through all the coffee options around me. I order an Americano.…

Uh... What?

It's the reason Starbucks exists. People are on the go, and they don't want to make their own coffee.

This is literally the same as going to the corner coffee shop to buy a Frappuccino.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#23
post #19

> At 9:27, once I’ve brushed my teeth, answered a few messages, and wiped the sleep from my eyes, I order a coffee through WeChat. There’s a payments window on the app, and when you click on it you see various options, some proprietary to WeChat and some which are independent apps that run on WeChat’s platform. I open the Meituan delivery app and scroll through all the coffee options around me. I order an Americano.…

Uh... What? It's the reason Starbucks exists. People are on the go, and they don't want to make their own coffee. This is literally the same as going to the corner coffee shop to buy a Frappuccino.

Going to Starbucks is not the same as having coffee delivered to your home, especially not if you walk there.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#24
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cash still works exactly the way it always has, (almost) nobody is going to turn down your business because you don't pay by an app.

There are shops in the big cities that are starting to refuse cash now (apparently, this is not illegal in China) and only accept the two big payment apps.

It is illegal to refuse cash in China but it takes a while for the shops to be found and fined.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#25

How is the Chinese government with regards to IT quality? I've come to believe that most governments are inept when it comes to the management, security and general quality of their software. With the government holding so much critical information, it seems a very obvious and valuable target for hackers.

China Facial Recognition Database Leak Sparks Fears Over Mass Data Collection

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/02/18/chin...

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#26

How is the Chinese government with regards to IT quality? I've come to believe that most governments are inept when it comes to the management, security and general quality of their software. With the government holding so much critical information, it seems a very obvious and valuable target for hackers.

WeChat is a private company owned by Tencent.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#27

A few things worth being aware of Alibaba does not own WeChat but rather's it's competition Alipay. It does not have any access to WeChat data. So far the "social credit" on seems to be mostly based on how much you buy and it only seems to give you discounts to massively overpriced products (similar to a credit card reward system). You don't really download apps in Wechat but rather add a link more like a Facebook Ap…

> You don't need to read since you can just send messages

How can illiterate people send messages?

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#28
post #19

> At 9:27, once I’ve brushed my teeth, answered a few messages, and wiped the sleep from my eyes, I order a coffee through WeChat. There’s a payments window on the app, and when you click on it you see various options, some proprietary to WeChat and some which are independent apps that run on WeChat’s platform. I open the Meituan delivery app and scroll through all the coffee options around me. I order an Americano.…

Uh... What? It's the reason Starbucks exists. People are on the go, and they don't want to make their own coffee. This is literally the same as going to the corner coffee shop to buy a Frappuccino.

[deleted]

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#29
post #19

> At 9:27, once I’ve brushed my teeth, answered a few messages, and wiped the sleep from my eyes, I order a coffee through WeChat. There’s a payments window on the app, and when you click on it you see various options, some proprietary to WeChat and some which are independent apps that run on WeChat’s platform. I open the Meituan delivery app and scroll through all the coffee options around me. I order an Americano.…

>Is it too much effort to just make your own coffee in your own apartment? Does that now also have to be delivered to you? The amount of waste involved in this just boggles my mind.

Not from China but have been different phases of life where have either preferred to have early morning coffe delivered/fetched/made myself in my apartment. Different priorities would drove the choices for me. Pricing differences between walking-fetching and having it delivered it on a schedule to my place were not much. Making it often required me to maintain a lot of things , which i preferred depending on place, nature of work besides other priorities.

Re: WeChat is Watching: Living in China with the app that knows everything about me

#30

A few things worth being aware of Alibaba does not own WeChat but rather's it's competition Alipay. It does not have any access to WeChat data. So far the "social credit" on seems to be mostly based on how much you buy and it only seems to give you discounts to massively overpriced products (similar to a credit card reward system). You don't really download apps in Wechat but rather add a link more like a Facebook Ap…

> You don't need to read since you can just send messages How can illiterate people send messages?

In countries and regions where Chinese is spoken, people heavily use the voice message functionality.
Post reply on HN