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Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Another good alternative, albeit search-based, is http://historio.us .

I recently switched to historious after seeing it here on HackerNews, and I've been very happy with it so far. It's a great bookmarking service; I'm surprised it hasn't received more attention with the debacle going on at Delicious.

Thanks guys, the service is a bit backed up right now, with all the importers, but the site should be responsive and functional otherwise. I greatly appreciate everyone's support!

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Another good alternative, albeit search-based, is http://historio.us .

And there's http://www.diigo.com/learn_more which allows you to annotate and add comments on the pages you bookmark and search only the annotations (or the full text if you want). They archive the pages you read as both HTML and as an image and have support for iOS and Android.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. There was no downtime, and no slow access. We went from our normal rate of 5k bookmark writes per day to over 5 million in a 24 hour period without going offline. Hell, we didn't even get slow . Our median page load times stayed well under a third of a second. We had no advance notice of the announcement and had to handle the spike in traffic on the fly, on one server. Our comp…

Going from 5k to 5M is really impressive - congrats on your sudden impressive growth!

However, the "there was no downtime" seems a bit disingenuous given my own experience signing up for the service yesterday. I received many "service unavailable" messages during signup, after clicking on the email verification link, and finally after signing up. Searching Twitter at the time for "Pinboard" showed that many other users were getting the same message (e.g. http://twitter.com/davekincaid/status/15520511979167744) ... there were many others, but unfortunately Twitter's 'older tweets' search doesn't seem to be working now.

I actually didn't care that the service was down for me even though I had just paid to sign up for it; I figured you guys were getting absolutely hammered by the unexpected news around Delicious. However, seeing your response here was surprising - either you didn't have monitoring tools set up to show you that indeed there was downtime or we have a drastically different definition of 'downtime'.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. There was no downtime, and no slow access. We went from our normal rate of 5k bookmark writes per day to over 5 million in a 24 hour period without going offline. Hell, we didn't even get slow . Our median page load times stayed well under a third of a second. We had no advance notice of the announcement and had to handle the spike in traffic on the fly, on one server. Our comp…

Going from 5k to 5M is really impressive - congrats on your sudden impressive growth! However, the "there was no downtime" seems a bit disingenuous given my own experience signing up for the service yesterday. I received many "service unavailable" messages during signup, after clicking on the email verification link, and finally after signing up. Searching Twitter at the time for "Pinboard" showed that many other use…

It's the former - on our end we didn't see any errors logged, and had no trouble reaching the site. We did see sporadic reports on Twitter and tried to chase them down, but there was so much going on we couldn't spend much time on it. Eventually pvg made some apache config changes on the fly that seemed to banish the problem for good.

If that was the general experience people had with the site last night, then it absolutely was downtime.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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As an aside, the creator of pinboard, is the anti-PG, (or at least the anti-PG of 2005):

http://www.idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm

"But you, sir [PG], are no painter. And while you hack away at your terminal, or ride your homemade Segway, we painters and musicians are going to be right over here with all the wine, hash, and hot chicks."

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #6

It baffles me that people want to pay for something that is widely available for free.

I agree with skorgu, jfb and bengross. Personally I have used free bookmarking tools, RSS readers, blogging tools & "free hosting" for years, only to see them go belly up or the founders leave and the product is left to decay or suffer years of unnecessary feature additions.

It gets really old (and time consuming for those who don't have time to burn)

I recently bought Fever for my RSS reader and Pinboard for bookmarking both which I love (and are worth every cent)

Personally I plan on avoiding free SaaS based services in favor of paid or open source self hosted solutions whenever possible.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #6

It baffles me that people want to pay for something that is widely available for free.

The alternatives which don't require your own server seem to support themselves through advertising. I consider viewing advertising a cost (and actually I consider it much more of a cost than the $5 I paid to pinboard.in). So, for me, there aren't any widely-available free alternatives.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Another good alternative, albeit search-based, is http://historio.us .

I started to use historio.us a few weeks ago when mentioned on here and since then I've upgraded to the paid version. It really is simple to use and its really useful. To be honest I've not used any others, but for someone who used to drag and drop useful sites to my desktop this has been great.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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As an aside, the creator of pinboard, is the anti-PG, (or at least the anti-PG of 2005): http://www.idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm "But you, sir [PG], are no painter. And while you hack away at your terminal, or ride your homemade Segway, we painters and musicians are going to be right over here with all the wine, hash, and hot chicks."

"As an aside, the creator of pinboard, is the anti-PG, (or at least the anti-PG of 2005)"

That is an unfair and extremely misleading label to apply to the author:

- your selective quote is immediately followed by "Hee hee", which most readers would interpret to mean that said paragraph (or indeed the entire post, since those are the last two words) is a somewhat good-natured poke.

- the criticism in the post is scoped only to the hackerspainters analogy

- elsewhere in the post he says "Graham is an excellent author when he sticks to topics that he knows well"

Hardly anti-PG. He's just not a fan of the analogy PG used in some essays. Don't drum up conflict where there is none.

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