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States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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This makes no sense to me. There is no reasonable reality where Sprint becomes a healthy competitive force in the US as a standalone business.

That's what people said when AT&T tried to buy T-Mobile.

Cingular buying ATT Wireless? Sure no problem.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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Let's not forget that our government is mostly run by people with law degrees while china has a large amount of technocrats. Making it much harder to get state-scale large engineering and software projects going in the U.S..

We have had a leader being a technocrat/rich businessman only once before in US history. That was Herbert Hoover. Now Trump. Neither have done anything amazing for business and/or innovation.

yea trump has no idea how a computer works...

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Why would anybody need to build a city of 60,000 engineers to compete in 5G? Europe's leading 5G makers are not doing that so that they can compete with Huawei, because it's obviously entirely unnecessary. The US doesn't need to change anything to compete with China. It has been successfully out-competing China in nearly every field for decades, save for low value manufacturing…

Agreed. There’s a reason the most educated and capable Chinese move the the US and become Americans. America’s cultural and technological dominance comes from its flexibility borne from a willingness to take in hard working immigrants from anywhere. America is exceptional in that it is a country of immigrants.

Yep it’s called brain drain. Many people come to the US to pursue school with intentions to go back home and make things better there, but just fall into life and work and never look back.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

#24

This makes no sense to me. There is no reasonable reality where Sprint becomes a healthy competitive force in the US as a standalone business.

T-Mobile was going to crap before its failed merger to ATT. It would be stupid to think Sprint can't turn itself around either.

T-mobile “turned itself around” partially because of the $6 billion that AT&T had to pay

https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/att-and-t-mobile-wha...

Also, T-mobile was hurting because it was the last major carrier that didn’t have the iPhone.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

#25

This makes no sense to me. There is no reasonable reality where Sprint becomes a healthy competitive force in the US as a standalone business.

T-Mobile was going to crap before its failed merger to ATT. It would be stupid to think Sprint can't turn itself around either.

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Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

#26

This makes no sense to me. There is no reasonable reality where Sprint becomes a healthy competitive force in the US as a standalone business.

That's what people said when AT&T tried to buy T-Mobile.

And AT&T paid T-mobile $6 billion in cash and spectrum afterwards because of the failed merger.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

#27

This makes no sense to me. There is no reasonable reality where Sprint becomes a healthy competitive force in the US as a standalone business.

Instead of approving this merger, is there another way the government could encourage competition? Perhaps break up the larger carriers or some how promote new upstart competition? Your statement sounds correct but I don’t exactly like the reality.

Breaking up the carriers would be worse for consumers. Every carrier now has some semblance of “nationwide” coverage.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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Instead of approving this merger, is there another way the government could encourage competition? Perhaps break up the larger carriers or some how promote new upstart competition? Your statement sounds correct but I don’t exactly like the reality.

Breaking up the carriers would be worse for consumers. Every carrier now has some semblance of “nationwide” coverage.

Break them up by region? With ability to use each other’s equipment? Idk, I’m shooting in the dark.

Re: States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed $26.5B merger

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Breaking up the carriers would be worse for consumers. Every carrier now has some semblance of “nationwide” coverage.

Break them up by region? With ability to use each other’s equipment? Idk, I’m shooting in the dark.

Yeah I know....

I guess you could enforce roaming agreements like they do in the EU(?) but then you still would have carriers having to negotiate with each other when one carrier has more external roaming traffic with the other - like Internet peering arrangements.

I don’t have a strong emotional opinion either way. Just trying to come up with pros and cons.

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