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Gaudí’s Sagrada Familia gets building permit after 137 years

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Post by StavrosK »

JorgeGT wrote: post #2

The article misses an important bit of info: when the construction started, the Sagrada Familia was not in Barcelona, but in an independent municipality, Sant Martí de Provençals. It was to this municipality that the building permit was requested, not to Barcelona, which would annex the municipality and with it, the Sagrada Familia, 15 years later. Plus, most of the documentation regarding the building, including pla…

I was very impressed when I visited the museum under the Sagrada Familia and saw photos of the beginning of construction, when the church was in the middle of large hay fields with no buildings around. Now it's nearly in the middle of the city!

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eddiezane wrote: post #19

Had the privilege of going after this past KubeCon EU (which was in Barcelona a few weeks ago). It was the most awe inspiring building I've ever seen. A true modern wonder. Wound up just sitting in the pews for a while taking it all. I took some photos but they definitely don't do it anywhere close to justice. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Hx2qwsc5yaXGPBfm8

In order to really capture the beauty of the interior, you have to pick the right angle and then force your camera to accentuate color. The interior is magical in a way that can be hard for a point-and-shoot to capture without fiddling. Of course, the internet being what it is, a google image search for "sagrada familia interior" brings up a few great examples like https://cdn.barcelonalowdown.com/barcelona-lowdown/uploads/2...

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Post by 100k »

dbetteridge wrote: post #23

The company I work for has actually been doing the engineering design work to finish the building. Pretty amazing how much was accomplished back in the day without computer aid. https://www.arup.com/projects/sagrada-familia

I visited a week ago, and it was one of the most awe-inspiring buildings I've ever been in. It gave me hope for humanity that we still have the ambition to complete multi-generational projects like this. Thank you for your contribution!

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Post by dbetteridge »

100k wrote: post #25
dbetteridge wrote: post #23

The company I work for has actually been doing the engineering design work to finish the building. Pretty amazing how much was accomplished back in the day without computer aid. https://www.arup.com/projects/sagrada-familia

I visited a week ago, and it was one of the most awe-inspiring buildings I've ever been in. It gave me hope for humanity that we still have the ambition to complete multi-generational projects like this. Thank you for your contribution!

Wish I could say I've worked on it personally! Have to agree that it's an amazing project

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Post by maguirre »

ebg13 wrote: post #22
eddiezane wrote: post #19

Had the privilege of going after this past KubeCon EU (which was in Barcelona a few weeks ago). It was the most awe inspiring building I've ever seen. A true modern wonder. Wound up just sitting in the pews for a while taking it all. I took some photos but they definitely don't do it anywhere close to justice. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Hx2qwsc5yaXGPBfm8

In order to really capture the beauty of the interior, you have to pick the right angle and then force your camera to accentuate color. The interior is magical in a way that can be hard for a point-and-shoot to capture without fiddling. Of course, the internet being what it is, a google image search for "sagrada familia interior" brings up a few great examples like https://cdn.barcelonalowdown.com/barcelona-lowdown/u…

Absolutely. Add to that the fact that the inside looks different at different times of the day due to which windows accentuate the inside.

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Post by nraynaud »

clarkmoody wrote: post #17
dsparkman wrote: post #7

Yeah, the whole affair was about Barcelona getting a cut of the money from Sagrada Familia. > Barcelona officials said the city will be paid 4.6 million euros ($5.2 million) in fees under an agreement negotiated with a foundation devoted to completing and preserving La Sagrada Familia.

City: That's a nice, world-famous church you're building there. It would be a shame if something ... happened to it. Classic city government thug move.

Hum, the history of the Catholic Church and democracy is a bit special in Spain, in particular in Catalonia.

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Post by fjsolwmv »

dzdt wrote: post #16

The engineering work for Sagrada Familia was insanely clever. Gaudi build a scale model including accurate weights for the building materials, upside-down, out of strings and weights. That way he could design non-vertical pillars that branch like trees and where all the stresses were carried by compression through the stonework. It is really a marvel of pre-computer technical design! [1] https://memetician.livejourna…

Why are upside down strings an accurate model for compressed stone?

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Post by wallace_f »

fjsolwmv wrote: post #29
dzdt wrote: post #16

The engineering work for Sagrada Familia was insanely clever. Gaudi build a scale model including accurate weights for the building materials, upside-down, out of strings and weights. That way he could design non-vertical pillars that branch like trees and where all the stresses were carried by compression through the stonework. It is really a marvel of pre-computer technical design! [1] https://memetician.livejourna…

Why are upside down strings an accurate model for compressed stone?

I'm not sure why, but in nature, any compressed stone arch's profile must fit within the profile of a hanging chain. This includes load bearing -- you can model the arch shape by adding weights to the chain.

This is only really relevant to cases where the loads are higher than the weight of the arch/chain (manmade arches typically are just symmetrical as the loads are far less than the arch's).

I'm sure someone here is capable of elegantly describing these loads in the language of math to describe the same conclusion. That's not really the why part, just a different language for explaining it.

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