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Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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It's bad when you can build a desktop with the same components for $2000 or less, without the Apple Tax. Trying to act as though they aren't marking everything up at least 100% is disingenuous, but extremely common for some reason.

So try to configure an iMac Pro level desktop for $2000 less. Don’t forget that the 5K monitor by itself is $1300. Also try configuring a workstation for $3000 with the specs of the Mac Pro. On the lower end, try configuring a desktop for much less than the $2100 iMac 5K.

Small nitpick, the Mac Pro and iMac Pro are 2 different products.

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If you really want to try - the site https://pcpartpicker.com/ is pretty easy to use for specs.

The original poster said you were paying a “significant markup” for Apple computers and I specifically mentioned the $2100 iMac Pro - 16Gb 6 Core i5 with a 256GB SSD. Seeing the monitor by itself would be $1300. That leaves an $800 budget for an equivalent computer. So define “significant” and I’m Not building a computer myself like it’s the 90s flipping through Computer Shopper.

You can build a lot of PC for $800.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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One of the many reasons I will not buy Apple. You're buying the brand, the name, not actual quality. I dont know what the exact percent is, but you're paying a significant markup on hardware for Apple vs, say a Dell, for the same hardware. Yeah, OS X is BSD based, but Dell will sell you the equivalent hardware for about half the price and guarantee it works with Linux (with support). I'm not a Dell fan, despite most…

So Apple has been surviving on brand only for 40+ years? Anecdotally: I am looking at a 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 with 256GB SSD and 16GB of RAM for $2099. The only reputable company that I can find that sells a 5K display is LG and it’s $1300 by itself. If I try to find an equivalent price Dell it doesn’t cost any less.

5K is a price outlier. LG Display are the only panel manufacturer, and they appeared in very few retail products. It just didn't become an industry standard size (8K has a better chance).

You can buy a 4K screen with the same pixel density for under 300USD, from a well-known brand.

You can buy four of those for less than that single 5K display. So I would suggest dual 4K.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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This was such a monumental marketing fail. If they had just said the price of the monitor was $7000 none of the target audience would have blinked. Then when it went on sale, they could have quietly added in their configuration when you buy it: -$700 Vesa mount

But why is it so expensive? That’s the big question. Many times when Apple has been called out for price gauging it has been very easy to just itemize and explain. Here? Just doesn’t seem that its anything else than just price gauging. Any one experienced in mechanics that can shed some light?

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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So Apple has been surviving on brand only for 40+ years? Anecdotally: I am looking at a 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 with 256GB SSD and 16GB of RAM for $2099. The only reputable company that I can find that sells a 5K display is LG and it’s $1300 by itself. If I try to find an equivalent price Dell it doesn’t cost any less.

5K is a price outlier. LG Display are the only panel manufacturer, and they appeared in very few retail products. It just didn't become an industry standard size (8K has a better chance). You can buy a 4K screen with the same pixel density for under 300USD, from a well-known brand. You can buy four of those for less than that single 5K display. So I would suggest dual 4K.

Not even close.

Sub $300 4k displays are TN panels, or cheap IPS panels with sRGB color gamut, horrible viewing angles, poor calibration, contrast ratio, etc.

If you want to compare, compare it with something like Dell UP2718Q which costs a whopping $1500.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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So Apple has been surviving on brand only for 40+ years? Anecdotally: I am looking at a 5K iMac - 6 Core I5 with 256GB SSD and 16GB of RAM for $2099. The only reputable company that I can find that sells a 5K display is LG and it’s $1300 by itself. If I try to find an equivalent price Dell it doesn’t cost any less.

If a regular display breaks, you can replace it. If the display in your iMac breaks, you have to spend $$$ to repair it. And maybe apple will tell you that it can't be repaired. All-in-ones are fine as low end machines but I would never buy a premium one.

How often do you break your display? Are you carrying around your iMac to places?

This is a poor argument against something that will just sit on your desk without moving it for months if not years.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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If a regular display breaks, you can replace it. If the display in your iMac breaks, you have to spend $$$ to repair it. And maybe apple will tell you that it can't be repaired. All-in-ones are fine as low end machines but I would never buy a premium one.

How often do you break your display? Are you carrying around your iMac to places? This is a poor argument against something that will just sit on your desk without moving it for months if not years.

Leaving it motionless on your desk reduces the risk, but you're still one relatively minor mistake from a broken display. If you're unlucky enough to have that happen, Apple products cost much more to repair.

Plus, all of the design related breaks mentioned in the article.

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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5K is a price outlier. LG Display are the only panel manufacturer, and they appeared in very few retail products. It just didn't become an industry standard size (8K has a better chance). You can buy a 4K screen with the same pixel density for under 300USD, from a well-known brand. You can buy four of those for less than that single 5K display. So I would suggest dual 4K.

Not even close. Sub $300 4k displays are TN panels, or cheap IPS panels with sRGB color gamut, horrible viewing angles, poor calibration, contrast ratio, etc. If you want to compare, compare it with something like Dell UP2718Q which costs a whopping $1500.

I think a better question is how many need the perfect monitor and how many could do with these "horrible" IPs panel.

I am not a graphic designer, I don't really need the best of the best. But what percentage of the market do??

Re: Apple Attempted to Censor Critical Coverage of Its $1k Monitor Stand

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If you really want to try - the site https://pcpartpicker.com/ is pretty easy to use for specs.

The original poster said you were paying a “significant markup” for Apple computers and I specifically mentioned the $2100 iMac Pro - 16Gb 6 Core i5 with a 256GB SSD. Seeing the monitor by itself would be $1300. That leaves an $800 budget for an equivalent computer. So define “significant” and I’m Not building a computer myself like it’s the 90s flipping through Computer Shopper.

> I'm Not building a computer myself like it’s the 90s flipping through Computer Shopper.

Maybe off topic, but...

What's wrong with researching the market and making more edcudated purchases?

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