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Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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Lots of human capital because A) we have a large population, B) we have the highest level of economic development in the world, and C) we've done a great job of importing talent. We were the main beneficiaries of the Europeans driving out their Jewish population. As a group, European Jews are responsible for something like 25% of our intellectual output over the last century, but only make up 2% of our population. La…

How do you measure 25% of the world's intellectual output? I'm a fan of Judea Pearl and Woody Allen, but I think that's a pretty strong statement to make

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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First of all, the technology industry itself is not just exclusive to the US. Samsung is south Korean, Nintendo is from Japan, Siemens is from Germany, ASML is from the Netherlands. All of these are highly technological companies, with Nintendo having been at the frontiers of technology since decades. But of course, Silicon Valley is unique with its high concentration of hightech companies. This has multiple reasons:…

> The US federal government maintains a large spying apparatus which has been increased massively after the 2001 terror attacks. They don't just use it for evil terrorists. It has been confirmed multiple times that they perform industrial espionage against companies in western countries, supposed to be allies of the US. The US government then gives the results of the espionage to industrial partners. Specifically whi…

Of course, this is not the sole reason why the US industry is where it is today. It's rather one of many reasons. The effect is much smaller than, say, soviet espionage on US technology was. But here you have some links on US industrial espionage on German companies:

https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlant...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-firms-fe...

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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Since the big Intel cash out, it's been venture capital. Europe & Asia is private equity territory, which is a fundamentally different attitude and approach to high-risk, high-growth business (as in they rarely do it). VC firms expect to make their money on IPOs & exits which encourages innovation and experimentation, while PE firms expect to make money from operations and interests on obliged loans which favors smar…

Completely agree. But, I think this begs another question -- why does venture capital thrive in the USA so well as opposed to Asia? Is it a cultural thing? or a fundraising thing?

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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My 2¢ in taking to people from other countries, it's the American attitude. Americans for better or worse think we can do anything, and they will try incessantly. They will start a business with far less experience and qualifications than others, pull themselves up by the bootstraps and potentially fail spectacularly - just to get right back up and do it again. I do not get this sense taking to people from other coun…

Also, critically, the US government (mostly) allows this. Many other countries have laws or regulations that impede the dynamicity of the economy and disincentivize entrepreneurship (or at least incentivize it less).

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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Lots of human capital because A) we have a large population, B) we have the highest level of economic development in the world, and C) we've done a great job of importing talent. We were the main beneficiaries of the Europeans driving out their Jewish population. As a group, European Jews are responsible for something like 25% of our intellectual output over the last century, but only make up 2% of our population. La…

How do you measure 25% of the world's intellectual output? I'm a fan of Judea Pearl and Woody Allen, but I think that's a pretty strong statement to make

He/she's talking Albert Einstein, et al: https://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/august/german-jewish-inv...

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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A few things: 1. America's early expansion was designed to gain control over the entirety of the Mississippi river, which has the largest lockless waterway system serving the longest "useful" land area in the world with cheap boat transportation. This cheap transportation is the primary reason for American early development success, and continues to benefit America immensely to this day. 2. Every other developed coun…

Any reading on 1? I was thinking about how America gained ground in the world, from early colonial, to the industrial revolution, to the internet giants. I haven't read much about the Mississippi in relation to that era of our industry.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the US the center of the tech industry?

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My 2¢ in taking to people from other countries, it's the American attitude. Americans for better or worse think we can do anything, and they will try incessantly. They will start a business with far less experience and qualifications than others, pull themselves up by the bootstraps and potentially fail spectacularly - just to get right back up and do it again. I do not get this sense taking to people from other coun…

I agree. My biggest fear is that we're getting a little too heavy on protectionism and regulation. We have giants in a lot of industries with regulatory capture. I think China's loose approach to IP may allow them to eat our lunch.
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