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Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Eehh - who clings to a single provider? In my family we jump around among iTunes, HBO Nordic, Viaplay and Netflix. I assume we will add Disney+ as well. Where exactly is the disruption?

Someone who doesn't want to pay 6 subscriptions, I guess.

Or people become better at bouncing around with their subscription dollars. One of benefits of moving to streaming is the ease to stop and start the subscription.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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post #11

Disney bought the rest of Hulu. They currently have full control and will have 100% ownership in a few years. We're getting to the point where you don't spend 10 minutes flipping channels; you spend 10 minutes checking different streaming apps. And the monthly spend is approaching parity. I spend $75 on streaming services a month.

That’s not really a fair comparison, though. $75 per month didn’t buy you access to tons of on-demand movies back in the day.

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Time to buy piratebay.org call options. Sometimes it is not a zero sum game. People won't sign up for Netflix. And Hulu. And Disney. And HBO. And Youtube. And... But netflix going belly up would be a shame. I need the next seasons of "alternated carbon"!

Yep, also most of us don't need access to everything simultaneously. I rotate subscriptions and typically only have one streaming service active at a time.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Time to buy piratebay.org call options. Sometimes it is not a zero sum game. People won't sign up for Netflix. And Hulu. And Disney. And HBO. And Youtube. And... But netflix going belly up would be a shame. I need the next seasons of "alternated carbon"!

If you cared about the environment you would watch alternative carbon.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone who doesn't want to pay 6 subscriptions, I guess.

if Netflix were smart they'd try to push a network package deal -- where you can signup for disney, hbo, amazon, through netflix and they take $2 or something off each subscription as incentive, users get single billing for all streaming, you'd pay the normal price or maybe get $5 off if you buy all networks for like $50 or $60. disney, hbo, amazon still get their $$ but Netflix makes some off the top, could be all t…

I doubt this has anything to do with Netflix being "smart".

If anything it looks like Disney may be trying to execute this exact strategy in the future. Look at how they refused to participate in UltraViolet and eventually got most of the other major movie companies to quit supporting UV and join the Disney-owned Movies Anywhere service instead.

I doubt they would play ball with such an attempt by Netflix.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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post #11

Disney bought the rest of Hulu. They currently have full control and will have 100% ownership in a few years. We're getting to the point where you don't spend 10 minutes flipping channels; you spend 10 minutes checking different streaming apps. And the monthly spend is approaching parity. I spend $75 on streaming services a month.

We have a lot of subscriptions as well, although probably not $75 per month... however the cost is spread across four households (parents and siblings all share accounts). In cable days, including premium channels, that would have been $100 each instead of the current ~$20 each.

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I don’t understand why so many people think this is a bad thing. Content distribution has become a commodity, thanks to AWS and the like. The codecs and whatnot are all standardized. And it turns out that consumers don’t really care about recommendation systems and similar accouterments. So the competition has shifted to the thing that people care about: content. When the market is competing over the thing people care about, that’s a good thing.

This is the healthiest the television industry has ever been. There are no “big 4 networks” controlling distribution. There’s no monopolies—if you want to launch a competitor, start a studio, pay Amazon a bunch of money, and boom. Disney, Netflix, CBS, etc., have just become umbrella organizations for studios producing content. They can compete directly with each other, and consumers and pick and choose what they want to spend their dollars on.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Hard to argue with any of the points offered in the article, but I wouldn't count Netflix out just yet. I agree it will be a long uphill battle, that may have to end with a hugely profitable Fortune 100 taking on Netflix's debt load.

If they fail, they could always open a movie studio. I mean Netflix originals are some of the best shows and movies around... Dead like me, Stranger Things, Haunting of hill House, The OA, Sex Ed, etc just to name a few...

I loved the end to S2 of The OA. Marling/Batmangli are may be the most creative and innovative writing duo in TV today. Amazingly thought-provoking stuff.
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