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Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#21

"Every increase in the real wealth of the society, every increase in the quantity of useful labour employed within it, tends indirectly to raise the real rent of land." -Adam Smith, "The Wealth Of Nations" Book I, XI. Of the Rent of Land, Conclusion https://www.bartleby.com/10/111.html

"We will pretend to be a suburb in 1957 forever"

—Mountain View and Palo Alto zoning board

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#23

"Every increase in the real wealth of the society, every increase in the quantity of useful labour employed within it, tends indirectly to raise the real rent of land." -Adam Smith, "The Wealth Of Nations" Book I, XI. Of the Rent of Land, Conclusion https://www.bartleby.com/10/111.html

"We will pretend to be a suburb in 1957 forever" —Mountain View and Palo Alto zoning board

Yup. As much as I love federalism here in the US, the housing crisis is directly caused by local NIMBY governments who refuse to accommodate housing needs. The only way I see this changing in the US (since it's afflicting every growing city), is some sort of federal subsidy for dense housing.

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#25
post #8

I understand the people that have been living there since before the boom. But what about the security guard and other such people that moved there knowing they would need to live in a van? There's 100s of cities to choose from so its not necessary to put yourself through that.

Maybe some people don’t mind cheap, tiny housing and we should be building extremely high density housing for those people to reduce the demand pressure?

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#26

The community can do something: * Build more housing. The tech companies can do something: * Build offices in more places That's it. That's the whole plan.

This situation is perhaps the finest example of the self-licking ice cream cone.

Consider:

* “The community” (houseowners) own the present stock of houses;

* The price of a house is driven not by materials or labor, but by supply;

* The supply of houses is controlled by the houseowners.

But it gets better. If houses cost more, not less,

* The local government gets more money from property taxes;

* The banks get their cut out of interest on the loans;

* The employers (corporations) keep their employees on the treadmill;

* The state and federal governments get their cuts from the income taxes.

We have the technology. You could probably buy a mansion for $100k if it was in literally anyone’s interest besides the line-level worker.

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#27

"Every increase in the real wealth of the society, every increase in the quantity of useful labour employed within it, tends indirectly to raise the real rent of land." -Adam Smith, "The Wealth Of Nations" Book I, XI. Of the Rent of Land, Conclusion https://www.bartleby.com/10/111.html

Henry George has better land value models.

I truly believe california has it all wrong talking about housing: people asking for more construction don't understand what is going on when they campaign for that, and people that complaing about boards also dont understand it.

California does not need housing reform, it needs tax reform.

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#28

"Every increase in the real wealth of the society, every increase in the quantity of useful labour employed within it, tends indirectly to raise the real rent of land." -Adam Smith, "The Wealth Of Nations" Book I, XI. Of the Rent of Land, Conclusion https://www.bartleby.com/10/111.html

"We will pretend to be a suburb in 1957 forever" —Mountain View and Palo Alto zoning board

At least there's no longer a pack of dogs living in 444 Castro Street.

https://www.mv-voice.com/news/2009/01/05/mt-bay-plazas-muddy...

"I never dreamed it would change the way it did," [Bill] Jelavich said of the city's downtown.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/97694017

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#29
A lot of sentiment here around "housing is the root of all these problems", but isn't it also the problem of these companies creating offices in communities that can't support them?

Given there are a lot of places that offices could be built that could support the employees, I think some of this responsibility lies with the companies who consciously keep their offices in locations that may cause their employees (not to mention facilities contractors) to be homeless.

Re: Living In A Van in Google's Backyard

#30
post #2

If only there were some way for people to work together without having to be in the same physical location. Guess it will never happen. Oh well.

If only the company in question were some sort of specialist in tech, then possibly it could discover some sort of technical alternative to location-based work environments.
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