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I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by devoply »

erentz wrote: post #16
abalone wrote: post #3

> A poster in an agency describes job qualification for Foxconn workers: age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. Many damning things in the report but this straight up racism demands a firm response from Apple.

Hang on. It’s not just racist hiring policies. We have companies here that are doing business in a country that is putting millions of people of a certain ethnicity in concentration camps. That really is not being talked about enough.

Yes and we are talking about Apple which has 245 billion dollars cash on hand yet is paying workers $272 / month. Where we can hardly blame workers for what China is doing, we definitely can hold Apple to account for what it's doing. This is the sort of shit Marx was referring to as ripping the workers off surplus value in the beginning of the industrial age. Socially conscious my ass.

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Post by protomyth »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9
abalone wrote: post #3

> A poster in an agency describes job qualification for Foxconn workers: age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. Many damning things in the report but this straight up racism demands a firm response from Apple.

> racism demands a firm response from Apple. Board: Will that make us more profitable? Tim: We will become less profitable, but in the long term, people will see that we- Board: No.

Tim Cook is the architect of the Apple supply chain, and that's why he is the CEO instead of a product person. He is not innocent and has to have read the Foxconn job requirements of age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. He knows what he is doing, and blaming just the board is a cop-out.

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Post by Retric »

lixtra wrote: post #17
askafriend wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know the market rate for this kind of labor in the area? Is Foxconn competitive with other manufacturers? Feel free to cite any numbers if you've got em. From what I've heard, Foxconn is a highly desirable place to work with top of market pay and benefits. A lot of people move just to work for Foxconn. So clearly there's a dynamic going on here that'll take more nuance to understand than can be painted with a…

> From what I've heard, Foxconn is a highly desirable place to work with top of market pay and benefits. The article states differently: >> Foxconn is known for its high staff turnover, largely because of the low monthly salary of 2,100 yuan per month (US$313) in Zhengzhou. By comparison, the average salary in the city of Zhengzhou in 2018 was 6,929 yuan (US$1,035) per month.

Average salaries can be very deceptive especially in developing nations. The real question is what someone with minimal skills or education can make in the area.

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Post by onetimemanytime »

abalone wrote: post #3

> A poster in an agency describes job qualification for Foxconn workers: age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. Many damning things in the report but this straight up racism demands a firm response from Apple.

Hey China...hire them, just make them a yellow star, or a red one.

isn't it cute that FoxConn doesn't make that as a policy but subcontractors do?

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Post by guardiangod »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #11

The only surprise here is that this unflattering portrayal was published in SCMP. They are accused of becoming another mouthpiece for the CCP, but this indicates there may still be some editorial latitude.

Foxconn is a Taiwanese company.

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Post by [deleted] »

devoply wrote: post #21
erentz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hang on. It’s not just racist hiring policies. We have companies here that are doing business in a country that is putting millions of people of a certain ethnicity in concentration camps. That really is not being talked about enough.

Yes and we are talking about Apple which has 245 billion dollars cash on hand yet is paying workers $272 / month. Where we can hardly blame workers for what China is doing, we definitely can hold Apple to account for what it's doing. This is the sort of shit Marx was referring to as ripping the workers off surplus value in the beginning of the industrial age. Socially conscious my ass.

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Re: I was offered a job at Foxconn to assemble iPhones for $1.7 per hour

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Post by amelius »

Retric wrote: post #24
lixtra wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> From what I've heard, Foxconn is a highly desirable place to work with top of market pay and benefits. The article states differently: >> Foxconn is known for its high staff turnover, largely because of the low monthly salary of 2,100 yuan per month (US$313) in Zhengzhou. By comparison, the average salary in the city of Zhengzhou in 2018 was 6,929 yuan (US$1,035) per month.

Average salaries can be very deceptive especially in developing nations. The real question is what someone with minimal skills or education can make in the area.

Or median salary instead of average salary.

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Post by sct202 »

abalone wrote: post #3

> A poster in an agency describes job qualification for Foxconn workers: age between 16 and 40, ninth-grade diploma, no Tibetan and Uygur ethnicities. Many damning things in the report but this straight up racism demands a firm response from Apple.

It's surprising that they don't have enough workers and are still racist.

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Post by azhenley »

wswkb wrote: post #22

Without knowing what the median salary per hour is in that part of China, this is just rage-bait.

> Foxconn is known for its high staff turnover, largely because of the low monthly salary of 2,100 yuan per month (US$313) in Zhengzhou. By comparison, the average salary in the city of Zhengzhou in 2018 was 6,929 yuan (US$1,035) per month.
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