South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry • Hacker News Board

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by jimmaswell » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:04 PM UTC

robertAngst wrote: post #14

What does 'Linux OS' mean? Various Linux desktop distros? If so, have mercy on anyone who will be using Ubuntu Desktop for the first time. I hope they aren't afraid of using Terminal, because the internet will shout them down for wanting a GUI solution. Love Ubuntu server, but could never get into linux desktop.

The elitism can be absurd. Sometimes I wonder if it's stockholm syndrome. "You want to configure things with a GUI with discoverability? Not read a dissertation-length man page and edit config files whose syntax changes between versions so you can't even rely on google results? Go back to winbl0ws"

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by AFascistWorld » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

ducttape12 wrote: post #2

I remember hearing years ago IE usage was crazy high in South Korea because they had laws in place requiring all online banking customers to install an ActiveX control. If that's true... Then they've come pretty far.

Most Chinese banks still do, some even require you to install a service, some don't support Chrome.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by kijin » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

thewhitetulip wrote: post #9

babakandishmand wrote: post #5

Curious if they'd roll out their own distro.

That will be too much work. Why not use well maintained existing distros?

Because this is Korea, and there's always someone trying to milk the taxpayers' money by offering to develop a "Koreanized" product that is "specialized" for government tasks. Even if it's just Ubuntu with a custom theme and slightly different Wine defaults.

I'd bet 5,000 won that they won't even contribute their translation fixes (i.e. their only positive contribution to the world) upstream. They will also rather go out of business than to follow the LTS cycle and keep their distro up to date. It has happened before. It will happen again.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by Yeri » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

AFascistWorld wrote: post #22

ducttape12 wrote: post #2

I remember hearing years ago IE usage was crazy high in South Korea because they had laws in place requiring all online banking customers to install an ActiveX control. If that's true... Then they've come pretty far.

Most Chinese banks still do, some even require you to install a service, some don't support Chrome.

Same for Korean banks

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by seddin » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:07 PM UTC

They are going to be amazed by how much they wasted by using Windows.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by conrmahr » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:08 PM UTC

maybe they should use Kali?

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by beefhash » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:09 PM UTC

Grollicus wrote: post #19

Hope that works as well for them as the switch to Linux worked for Munich

Except that Munich switched back[1].

[1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/13/munich_committee_sa...

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by chris_wot » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:09 PM UTC

cvnyw wrote: post #4

tooltalk wrote: post #3

> ... as Microsoft’s free technical support for Windows 7 expires in January 2020. they are still on Windows 7? ouch!!!

Lighter and easier to manage than 10... why not?

Can't run Windows 7 on Skylake and greater chipsets.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by AFascistWorld » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:10 PM UTC

China has this "original" OS called Redflag Linux, it's basically repackaged Linux to rake in government money, sells to military for some 500 usd per pc, the kickback must be big.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Post by thiago_fm » Sat, May 18, 2019, 3:11 PM UTC

I doubt this will work out. They also tried that in many countries, they all go back to using Windows. I hate Windows, but I can envision how much money AND time it's gonna cost them to move out, and I'm sure that they will either run out of money before they do the transition, or machines would have already dominated the earth before they are done with this "transition"l

I would believe it much more if they said that they will try to use more Linux, try to mix them up, or create APIs for everything etc. Nowadays it's so easy to create services and use LDAP or whatever thing you want with whatever programming language or service. You can host it on Linux and start changing some computers and systems to Linux.

But "switch from X to Y" seems a terrible idea. Even as a personal computer user, for me, it's impossible to "switch". Imagine for a government. It's a hilarious statement, one of those that politicians do say, but they have no fucking clue of what they are saying.