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WhatsApp voice calls were used to inject spyware on phones

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Re: WhatsApp voice calls were used to inject spyware on phones

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Post by wubnf »

bitcurious wrote: post #18
wubnf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>All my life I've thought spyware was developed primarily by evil Russian and Chinese hackers. But apparently also by Israeli developers with their government's blessing and open endorsement. Guess who controls the media and therefore the narrative.

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I'm not hiding, anybody who reads it knows what I mean. I think it's just funnier when written that way. "Guess who..."

But yeah, let's be open: the media is controlled by the Jews, so you won't hear them badmouth Israel often. Come on, just look at what they do in Gaza. That shit should be on the telly 24/7 instead of Syria.

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Post by seppin »

xenospn wrote: post #12
bjourne wrote: post #7

All my life I've thought spyware was developed primarily by evil Russian and Chinese hackers. But apparently also by Israeli developers with their government's blessing and open endorsement. That's some very shady stuff. Before someone says something about government surveillance of fiber cables. Yes, that is also bad, but exploiting vulnerabilities to install spyware on peoples phones... It crosses yet another line…

They managed to destroy Iranian nuclear centrifuges using a very sophisticated attack. Read up on Stuxnet. Also, as an Israeli, I can 100% confirm that Israelis have absolutely no issues with crossing any kind of boundary. The fact that others think that such a thing as "boundaries" exist only serves as an advantage.

> The fact that others think that such a thing as "boundaries" exist only serves as an advantage.

Isn't this how villains in Marvel movies work?

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Post by wahern »

roywiggins wrote: post #11

It's not just the NSO group. Hacking Team is not exactly shy about the services they offer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Team FinFisher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher MiniPanzer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniPanzer_and_MegaPanzer

Yeah, there's a cottage industry of security firms who sell exploits to the U.S. government directly or indirectly through big defense contractors. Many, and I personally have assumed _most_ (but without checking), are American firms.

And, frankly, the Israeli industry has much to gain by advertising their prowess in order to bolster their IT security bone fides internationally. American firms are probably more discrete, so tabulating widely published exploits by country of origin wouldn't be a great metric to determine which country is doing the most work crafting exploits.

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Post by agrapa »

darkestloud wrote: post #13

Nice to see Israel not only colonizing and occupying land, but supporting terrorist organizations that attack human rights advocates.

You mean colonizing and occupying its own land. That would be like saying the Choctaw are occupying Florida.

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Post by sergiotapia »

bitcurious wrote: post #18
wubnf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>All my life I've thought spyware was developed primarily by evil Russian and Chinese hackers. But apparently also by Israeli developers with their government's blessing and open endorsement. Guess who controls the media and therefore the narrative.

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Please stop writing these kinds of comments that only further flame wars here. Thank you.

Re: WhatsApp voice calls were used to inject spyware on phones

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Post by eof »

bjourne wrote: post #7

All my life I've thought spyware was developed primarily by evil Russian and Chinese hackers. But apparently also by Israeli developers with their government's blessing and open endorsement. That's some very shady stuff. Before someone says something about government surveillance of fiber cables. Yes, that is also bad, but exploiting vulnerabilities to install spyware on peoples phones... It crosses yet another line…

I love how you’ve been convinced that Russia and China are naughty and Israel is somehow too good to be shady.
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