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It's a long read but IMO was worth it.
It seems to be a long-running trend for Churches and similar religious organizations to do this sort of stuff.
The documentary is very good and based on facts, and the Polish church never had and still does not have any means of getting rid of people such as the collaborators who have been implanted there by the old communist governments or child molesters who proliferate in this environment, having unrestricted access to children in schools and churches. They are simply moved from one chapel to another or, eventually, to hou…
I disagree. The Catholic Church SHOULD be associated with child molestation. Systematic child molestation.
If they are moving known pedophiles around and giving them access to new children, why should they not be called out?
The documentary is very good and based on facts, and the Polish church never had and still does not have any means of getting rid of people such as the collaborators who have been implanted there by the old communist governments or child molesters who proliferate in this environment, having unrestricted access to children in schools and churches. They are simply moved from one chapel to another or, eventually, to hou…
>It's time for the Catholic church to stop being associated with child molestation I disagree. The Catholic Church SHOULD be associated with child molestation. Systematic child molestation. If they are moving known pedophiles around and giving them access to new children, why should they not be called out?
Tell sexual humans not to be sexual due to some made up non-sense myths and put them in positions of power and authority, what could possibly go wrong? They want to stop child abuse, and sure who is not for that, but how about stopping myth abuse?
I'm personally not convinced by the often exerted narrative that celibacy leads to pedophilia. It seems to me that a more likely explanation is that someone with a certain inclination would seek out a job (perhaps even subconsciously) that may offer him a chance to get closer to living out that inclination.
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>It's time for the Catholic church to stop being associated with child molestation I disagree. The Catholic Church SHOULD be associated with child molestation. Systematic child molestation. If they are moving known pedophiles around and giving them access to new children, why should they not be called out?
Finish reading the sentence you quote, and you'll find you do not disagree with them.
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But what if there’s nothing to purge? What if the church itself is the catalyst for creating predators? The fact that this problem has spanned generations tells me that this isn’t something you can purge, it’s fundamental to the way the church operates. Ask a man to be celibate and then give him unquestioned, divine power over individuals? Of course you’re going to have a predator problem!
Institutions such as public schools and the Boy Scouts that do not require celibacy have had very similar problems. So have some Protestant churches that allow their ministers to marry. The John Jay report done on clerical sex abuse in the USA didn’t find the percentage of abusers in the priesthood to be significantly different from those in other professions. The impulse to cover up is not limited to the institution…
The documentary is very good and based on facts, and the Polish church never had and still does not have any means of getting rid of people such as the collaborators who have been implanted there by the old communist governments or child molesters who proliferate in this environment, having unrestricted access to children in schools and churches. They are simply moved from one chapel to another or, eventually, to hou…
The Polish government should get rid of them. The Polish church shouldn't be able to keep people out of jail, right?
edit: uh oh, looks like I triggered the pedophiles.
Tell sexual humans not to be sexual due to some made up non-sense myths and put them in positions of power and authority, what could possibly go wrong? They want to stop child abuse, and sure who is not for that, but how about stopping myth abuse?
I'm personally not convinced by the often exerted narrative that celibacy leads to pedophilia. It seems to me that a more likely explanation is that someone with a certain inclination would seek out a job (perhaps even subconsciously) that may offer him a chance to get closer to living out that inclination.
On the institutional side its the well known and agreed upon siege mentality where the church tries to protect itself out of arrogance and a probably accurate assessment that its enemies want to use and manipulate this for political gain.
Also much less talked about is the church's former policies were partially due to a misguided sense of mercy. If the church really did come down as hard and preemptively as people now want it to from the very beginning the world would probably be whining about how intolerant and cruel they were to potential and defrocked priests.
The documentary is very good and based on facts, and the Polish church never had and still does not have any means of getting rid of people such as the collaborators who have been implanted there by the old communist governments or child molesters who proliferate in this environment, having unrestricted access to children in schools and churches. They are simply moved from one chapel to another or, eventually, to hou…
I find this repeated idea weird. We're not in a state which would politically protect them anymore. They could be easily removed/charged last week. Bringing up the implanting by the gov today sounds like "not only we hid child molesters, but also keep hiding old communist party spies now" - how does it make things better?