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How’s the quality of the content as compared to Wikipedia’s?
Can't be worse than Spanish Wikipedia.
What's wrong with Spanish Wikipedia?
China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
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Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Restricting access to information will help the Chinese government retain power over the Chinese people. That's the point..
Yes, but another way to look at it, does China's micromanagement of the domestic flow of information result in more or less prosperity for their people? To misquote Hayek: communism is ultimately like telling every car where they should go rather than just putting up street-signs. * Please add to the debate rather than down-voting. Also Hayek wasn't musing about future autonomous cars, its a metaphor about how decidi…
China's economy isn't by any stretch of the imagination "communist", but telling every car where to go is perhaps the right solution for the future, with computer science making it feasible and overpopulation making it desirable.
However, I'm not sure that's in any way relevant to freedom of thought and freedom of information.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#23Sigh and this is why plain text SNI is was not a good idea...
I was wondering what happens if you skip the SNI bit and just rely on the Host header in the data. Does that work?
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#24Sigh and this is why plain text SNI is was not a good idea...
I was wondering what happens if you skip the SNI bit and just rely on the Host header in the data. Does that work?
That's called "domain fronting", the major cloud providers disallow it and enforce that the Host header must match the SNI.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Restricting access to information will help the Chinese government retain power over the Chinese people. That's the point..
Yes, but another way to look at it, does China's micromanagement of the domestic flow of information result in more or less prosperity for their people? To misquote Hayek: communism is ultimately like telling every car where they should go rather than just putting up street-signs. * Please add to the debate rather than down-voting. Also Hayek wasn't musing about future autonomous cars, its a metaphor about how decidi…
> communism is ultimately like telling every car where they should go rather than just putting up street-signs.
Ironically, in the capitalist future, each car will decide where to go through a computer system controlled by a single company instead.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
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Can't be worse than Spanish Wikipedia.
What's wrong with Spanish Wikipedia?
I don't know about the Spanish one, but the Croatian one caused a lot of controversy both internally and externally because it was took over by extremely conservative (and sometimes blatantly pro-faschist) group of mods, to the point where a Minister of Education discouraged students of using it as a source.
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/croatian-wikipedia-fascist-t...
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
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More probably for the impending 30th anniversary of 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.
Were there protests in previous notable anniversaries?
Sadly the main commemorative events only take place in Hong Kong and Taiwan(Macau is not included), but you know the consequence of going against totalitarian government right?.
And you miss the whole point of censorship. It's about making people reluctant to remembering it.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't be worse than Spanish Wikipedia.
What's wrong with Spanish Wikipedia?
funny to think that, back at college (circa 2003) , when wikipedia was still a relatively new and scary things for academics, we were actively discouraged from using it as a reference for information, let alone a source to cite
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Restricting access to information will help the Chinese government retain power over the Chinese people. That's the point..
Yes, but another way to look at it, does China's micromanagement of the domestic flow of information result in more or less prosperity for their people? To misquote Hayek: communism is ultimately like telling every car where they should go rather than just putting up street-signs. * Please add to the debate rather than down-voting. Also Hayek wasn't musing about future autonomous cars, its a metaphor about how decidi…
does China's micromanagement of the domestic flow of information result in more or less prosperity for their people?
The assumption you're making is that the Chinese government, or any government actually, optimizes for the prosperity of the people. Governments optimize for the prosperity of some people. In China that appears to be the ruling elite. In America it's the wealthy. Here in the UK it's the establishment (which is the existing upper class and the newly wealthy).
I don't think any government genuinely has the interests of all the people at heart, but I am massively pessimistic and cynical so maybe it's me.
Re: China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia
#30This makes me sad. Wikipedia is surely one of humanity's greatest accomplishments to date. Having such a resource be off limits to a large section of our population is truly depressing.
Of course, there was always the language barrier, but zh.wikipedia.org could definitely have been as high quality as the English version given the chance.