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Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by konart »

1f97 wrote: post #17
Supermighty wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use iTerm. There are alternatives that are faster, like Alacritty, but iTerm has a ton of features. It's hard to beat.

out of curiosity, could you give an example of where Alacritty would be faster than iTerm in a day-to-day environment?

The only usecase that comes to my mind is text rendering when you want to navigate through some large log file, maybe even this some kind of syntax highlight.

Otherwise I'm quite curious too to why you may need a GPU rendering or something like this...

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by egwynn »

Hyper certainly looks cool, but “looks cool” doesn’t cut it when it comes to winning me over for what might be the #1 most important tool I use on a daily basis. Is there a page telling me why I should use this over my current terminal (iTerm2, FWIW)?

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by ynniv »

HereBeBeasties wrote: post #13
beardicus wrote: post #3

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Update: Hyper 3 feels super-fast. Startup and new tabs are somewhat sluggish still but actual rendering responsiveness seems real nice.

Sad commentary on the state of the world when you feel the need to comment on the speed with which a computer can pain text to the screen. If you read their changelog you'll see that Hyper 3.0 uses WebGL to achieve this. OpenGL. To draw text at a reasonable speed. It's not individually an insane thing to do within the context of Electron, etc. but take five steps back and talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nu…

Actually that's a very reasonable thing to do. macOS has been using hardware accelerated graphics since 10.0, and leveraging this is better than fighting it.

Also see https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by [deleted] »

nickjj wrote: post #11

I gave up on Hyper about 8 months ago after only using it for a few weeks. 2.1 was close to unusable on Windows. Major prompt / cursor bugs (it would disappear all the time), ~200ms input latency (but a terminal's only job is to make typing feel awesome) and it took 5 seconds+ to open on an SSD. I reported a number of those issues but the maintainers didn't even respond even though people were commenting that it was…

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Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nickjj »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #20
nickjj wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you adapt using tmux then you are free to pick whatever terminal you want because tabs / split panes are done very well in tmux. For example I tried nearly every terminal on Windows and ultimately use wsltty because tmux offers nearly instant tabs and split panes, buffer searching and everything else you could want in a terminal. Here's a whole write up on the comparisons: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/conemu-vs-…

Perhaps. I love tmux for multiple terminals in one SSH connection, but I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing, tabbed file explorers, etc., so having tabs in my terminal just makes sense. I could probably get used to tmux handling tabs and split panes all the time.

Yeah a terminal tab maps 1:1 with a tmux window. Same type of feature. You can also use the mouse and / or keyboard to navigate between everything.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by jbverschoor »

1f97 wrote: post #17
Supermighty wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use iTerm. There are alternatives that are faster, like Alacritty, but iTerm has a ton of features. It's hard to beat.

out of curiosity, could you give an example of where Alacritty would be faster than iTerm in a day-to-day environment?

I like the profile manager. I have all my servers in there.. ssh directly and have a certain color for prod etc.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by iaml »

HereBeBeasties wrote: post #13
beardicus wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Update: Hyper 3 feels super-fast. Startup and new tabs are somewhat sluggish still but actual rendering responsiveness seems real nice.

Sad commentary on the state of the world when you feel the need to comment on the speed with which a computer can pain text to the screen. If you read their changelog you'll see that Hyper 3.0 uses WebGL to achieve this. OpenGL. To draw text at a reasonable speed. It's not individually an insane thing to do within the context of Electron, etc. but take five steps back and talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nu…

It's not insane. FYI the fastest terminal (alacritty) achieves its performance by rendering via gpu, and it's written in rust. iTerm recently started doing it too.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by ilikehurdles »

ixtli wrote: post #16
1f97 wrote: post #9

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why not use iTerm if on OS X?

Agree. iTerm2 has been doing rendering with opengl for years. If you're on OS X its unclear why something like Hyper is necessary.

I stopped using iTerm2 in favor of the default Terminal because iTerm2 has worse performance and latency [1], and I wasn't getting anything out of its additional features. I noticed an improvement going back to Terminal.app. YMMV of course; but if we're asking why Hyper is necessary, I'd like to ask the same question of iTerm2.

[1]: https://danluu.com/term-latency/

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by deskamess »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #20
nickjj wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you adapt using tmux then you are free to pick whatever terminal you want because tabs / split panes are done very well in tmux. For example I tried nearly every terminal on Windows and ultimately use wsltty because tmux offers nearly instant tabs and split panes, buffer searching and everything else you could want in a terminal. Here's a whole write up on the comparisons: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/conemu-vs-…

Perhaps. I love tmux for multiple terminals in one SSH connection, but I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing, tabbed file explorers, etc., so having tabs in my terminal just makes sense. I could probably get used to tmux handling tabs and split panes all the time.

What do you use/recommend for tabbed file explorer?
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