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400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by mmsimanga »

mikorym wrote: post #14

Once upon a time I unassumingly pondered upon my university library's sale. This type of thing happened every term and every term I would skip a class or so to pore over the treasures. And this time, indeed there was a treasure. The first thing that struck me was the big sticker on the first page that said "DO NOT REMOVE FROM LIBRARY" and "DO NOT THROW OUT". Well, I am not sure exactly what it said, but that was the…

Can you please put me out of my misery and give the name of the author. I am really curious. Google wasn't of much help.

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by eberkund »

mmsimanga wrote: post #21
mikorym wrote: post #14

Once upon a time I unassumingly pondered upon my university library's sale. This type of thing happened every term and every term I would skip a class or so to pore over the treasures. And this time, indeed there was a treasure. The first thing that struck me was the big sticker on the first page that said "DO NOT REMOVE FROM LIBRARY" and "DO NOT THROW OUT". Well, I am not sure exactly what it said, but that was the…

Can you please put me out of my misery and give the name of the author. I am really curious. Google wasn't of much help.

Leibniz I'm guessing.

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by tptacek »

booleandilemma wrote: post #16
mikorym wrote: post #14

Once upon a time I unassumingly pondered upon my university library's sale. This type of thing happened every term and every term I would skip a class or so to pore over the treasures. And this time, indeed there was a treasure. The first thing that struck me was the big sticker on the first page that said "DO NOT REMOVE FROM LIBRARY" and "DO NOT THROW OUT". Well, I am not sure exactly what it said, but that was the…

At the end of the day I wasn't even thanked. Sounds like the librarian is yet another person trying to cover his own ass. Instead of showing gratitude, he probably wants to pretend the whole incident never happened.

How much gratitude do you generally expect for simple, ethical actions that take almost no effort on your part?

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by yeahwhatever10 »

tptacek wrote: post #23
booleandilemma wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day I wasn't even thanked. Sounds like the librarian is yet another person trying to cover his own ass. Instead of showing gratitude, he probably wants to pretend the whole incident never happened.

How much gratitude do you generally expect for simple, ethical actions that take almost no effort on your part?

Generally you would expect a simple amount of gratitude that takes almost no effort on their part. Like "Thank You".

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by userbinator »

mikorym wrote: post #14

Once upon a time I unassumingly pondered upon my university library's sale. This type of thing happened every term and every term I would skip a class or so to pore over the treasures. And this time, indeed there was a treasure. The first thing that struck me was the big sticker on the first page that said "DO NOT REMOVE FROM LIBRARY" and "DO NOT THROW OUT". Well, I am not sure exactly what it said, but that was the…

As a counter-anecdote, in my experience it is very uncommon for large entities which are disposing of books and other equipment to remove such labels even from things they clearly intend to not keep. You identified something which was likely a mistake, but I've had the opposite reaction when I asked about a "do not remove from this room" label on a book I wanted to buy: "oh, that's just left over from when it was a part of our collection, but we are selling it." (In the end, I bought it.)

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by anon1m0us »

tptacek wrote: post #23
booleandilemma wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day I wasn't even thanked. Sounds like the librarian is yet another person trying to cover his own ass. Instead of showing gratitude, he probably wants to pretend the whole incident never happened.

How much gratitude do you generally expect for simple, ethical actions that take almost no effort on your part?

You reject the amount of effort it takes to walk away from $8,000 -- perhaps a semester of tuition for a college student?

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by nitrogen »

yeahwhatever10 wrote: post #24
tptacek wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much gratitude do you generally expect for simple, ethical actions that take almost no effort on your part?

Generally you would expect a simple amount of gratitude that takes almost no effort on their part. Like "Thank You".

It seems the amount of gratitude should also be proportional (albeit with a small coefficient) to the loss that was prevented.

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by tptacek »

anon1m0us wrote: post #26
tptacek wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much gratitude do you generally expect for simple, ethical actions that take almost no effort on your part?

You reject the amount of effort it takes to walk away from $8,000 -- perhaps a semester of tuition for a college student?

Yes, I reject the amount of effort that takes, just like I neglect the amount of effort it takes not to pocket the money you find in a wallet on the ground.

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by anon1m0us »

tptacek wrote: post #28
anon1m0us wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You reject the amount of effort it takes to walk away from $8,000 -- perhaps a semester of tuition for a college student?

Yes, I reject the amount of effort that takes, just like I neglect the amount of effort it takes not to pocket the money you find in a wallet on the ground.

False analogy.

Re: 400-year-old Bible stolen from US is found in Netherlands

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Post by contingencies »

matwood wrote: post #12
contingencies wrote: post #8

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Hands contain oils, mold spores, bacteria, etc. and are certainly not good for fibrous media. Strategies depend upon what kind of media you have. Disposable cotton gloves are very popular. If you are interested in further research, the Getty is one of the world authorities on antiquities handling, they probably have a page or guide about it someplace. (Source: I have an art collection on antique paper myself, and hav…

For books, clean, dry, bare hands is recommended by the Library of Congress, the British Library, and Library of Canada. They explicitly recommend against using gloves. https://thediscoverblog.com/2019/04/05/the-gloves-come-off/

Interesting summary, though the argument is limited to old worn books that are still physically sturdy and they explicitly disclaim the recommendation for art and photographs.
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