Privacy concerns aside, I can't wait to read the "Facial Recognition let me on the wrong flight when I got in the wrong line by accident" articles that are going to come out of this. Unless these systems have some fantastic (1e-6) P_{false alarm} rate or better, people are going to be mistaken for other people and let on the wrong flight sooner or later.
JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
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Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#22The passenger seems surprised that her picture has been taken and stored... I wonder if she realizes her picture is on her twitter account?
Isn't it a bit different have a photo tied to an ostensibly anonymous internet account which you have control over, and have a photo that is legally tied to your person and leased out by the government?
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#23The passenger seems surprised that her picture has been taken and stored... I wonder if she realizes her picture is on her twitter account?
This about consent and control.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this case since the company does not store the images GDPR doesn’t apply.
Even if they don't retain the images, it's a veritable treasure trove for security agencies, who will almost certainly be hoovering them up, either with or without the company's knowledge.
It's been a few years since I traveled international - but CBP already takes pictures at passport control, don't they?
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#25The passenger seems surprised that her picture has been taken and stored... I wonder if she realizes her picture is on her twitter account?
Isn't it a bit different have a photo tied to an ostensibly anonymous internet account which you have control over, and have a photo that is legally tied to your person and leased out by the government?
CBP already has my photo and name from my passport.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#26That's just bizarre. This would never, ever, fly under the GDPR.
I believe that if you study the language of the GDPR, you'll find that "it's OK if the government does it."
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#27Most relevant details, from the last link [1]: > It took her photo, comparing her picture to a preloaded photo databased of all the passengers with tickets on this flight, and then she got a check mark, indicating she was cleared to board. The whole process took about five to six seconds. > The Aruba experiment is expected to last somewhere between 45 and 90 days. > "We're basically capturing that picture at the boar…
Is it really that useful to identify someone who has overstayed their visa when they are leaving the country ? Sure, you then know not to let them in next time. But it seems like a lot of effort when there are so many people overstaying their visa and not leaving out of the airports. That said, even as a libertarian, privacy-conscious person, I'm not sure I have a problem with exit controls like this. It's important…
Didn't read the article, did it specify international flights? It makes sense if they're doing this for intranational flights too
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#28The passenger seems surprised that her picture has been taken and stored... I wonder if she realizes her picture is on her twitter account?
Isn't it a bit different have a photo tied to an ostensibly anonymous internet account which you have control over, and have a photo that is legally tied to your person and leased out by the government?
The person's twitter account uses their given name with a personal photo. So replace "ostensibly" with "absolutely not."
Also, let's assume we're talking reality and not theory. Given that, what's the difference between JetBlue querying a proprietary goldmine of data (or multiple ones) vs. querying a (probably) proprietary goldmine of data that was collected through a contract with DHS?
In either instance, the short term solution would be to generate negative publicity for JetBlue until they cancel the program. Also in either instance, the only conceivable way to keep the goldmine off limits would be through federal legislation.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#29Most relevant details, from the last link [1]: > It took her photo, comparing her picture to a preloaded photo databased of all the passengers with tickets on this flight, and then she got a check mark, indicating she was cleared to board. The whole process took about five to six seconds. > The Aruba experiment is expected to last somewhere between 45 and 90 days. > "We're basically capturing that picture at the boar…
Is it really that useful to identify someone who has overstayed their visa when they are leaving the country ? Sure, you then know not to let them in next time. But it seems like a lot of effort when there are so many people overstaying their visa and not leaving out of the airports. That said, even as a libertarian, privacy-conscious person, I'm not sure I have a problem with exit controls like this. It's important…
Also, you need photo ID to fly and pass customs.
Re: JetBlue explains to a passenger how it got a photo of her face
#30Most relevant details, from the last link [1]: > It took her photo, comparing her picture to a preloaded photo databased of all the passengers with tickets on this flight, and then she got a check mark, indicating she was cleared to board. The whole process took about five to six seconds. > The Aruba experiment is expected to last somewhere between 45 and 90 days. > "We're basically capturing that picture at the boar…
Is it really that useful to identify someone who has overstayed their visa when they are leaving the country ? Sure, you then know not to let them in next time. But it seems like a lot of effort when there are so many people overstaying their visa and not leaving out of the airports. That said, even as a libertarian, privacy-conscious person, I'm not sure I have a problem with exit controls like this. It's important…
Address isn't on the ticket or on the visa/passport. As many people on the "no-fly list" can attest, very many people have the same name.