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Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#21

Sorry for noob question, but why would one use OpenBSD instead of FreeBSD? I like latter, but also hear good things about former, although there are some limitations (e.g. no ZFS). Thank you in advance.

Works really well out of the box with certain laptops. Excellent man pages. A good amount of software and a good track record with security.

FreeBSD is nice for a file server, OpenBSD for a laptop.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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Odd that you put this on a the travel laptop and not the desktop, I imagine most OS polygot its the inverse for things like battery life, touchpad drivers, webcam driver. Am curious why not make the switch on desktop? Same semantics? Same dotfiles? Do you use the same window manager across both linux and openbsd? Also what's the "much nicer" you refer to.. Please sell me

Oh, I need Docker a lot. And our target platforms are Linux and OSX, so I just want to have some kind of standard OS on Desktop. Also stuff like Signal, Spotify etc. I still haven't been able to get running on OpenBSD, maybe some day... Nicer in a way that setting up the wifi, suspend et. al. just works. And is very easy.

All the OS X users seem to be content running Docker in a Linux VM. It's more secure that way too, fitting with OpenBSD mentality :)

Doesn't help with the desktop OS part though.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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post #22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I need Docker a lot. And our target platforms are Linux and OSX, so I just want to have some kind of standard OS on Desktop. Also stuff like Signal, Spotify etc. I still haven't been able to get running on OpenBSD, maybe some day... Nicer in a way that setting up the wifi, suspend et. al. just works. And is very easy.

All the OS X users seem to be content running Docker in a Linux VM. It's more secure that way too, fitting with OpenBSD mentality :) Doesn't help with the desktop OS part though.

OpenBSD does not yet have kvm support, so you can run qemu, but it'll be very slow.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks. When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing". I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

> new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq

systemd-resolved is a non-recursive resolver. so is dnsmasq.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#26
What!? They don't have OpenBSD t-shirts anymore !?!?!?!?! My old OpenBSD 2.3 tshirt (the wireframe daemon) will die soon and I need a replacement!

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#27
Still no unified buffer cache. :-( The lack of coherence and memory reuse between mmap(2) and read(2) is my single biggest beef with OpenBSD right now. It's a great system in terms of robustness, documentation, and philosophical unification. It's a shame its kernel still thinks Ronald Reagan is president.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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post #23

> MariaDB 10.0.38 Can anyone share some insight why OpenBSD does not provide a more recent MariaDB Version ?

It could be a lack of resources or they are just very conservative in upgrading.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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post #26

What!? They don't have OpenBSD t-shirts anymore !?!?!?!?! My old OpenBSD 2.3 tshirt (the wireframe daemon) will die soon and I need a replacement!

Someone should really fix this, because clearly they're connected to Natasha Allegri now who'd make a killer design.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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post #17

> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks. When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing". I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

People are probably less upset because it doesn't take the "systemd all the things" approach of getting rid of huge chunks of old stuff for what is ostensibly an init system. I don't have much of an issue with systemd (except binary logging; I hate that) and just put up with it, but the reasons for which people objected to systemd don't seem to extend to this.

The only connection that systemd-resolved has to the init system is the name prefix. Seems odd to praise the BSDs for developing everything in a single repo but faulting systemd for the same approach.
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