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The global population pyramid
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Re: The global population pyramid
#22Its an interesting visualization. Another site that shows this for individual countries is https://www.populationpyramid.net/ It is interesting to contrast countries at different points on their development. E.g., in Japan, where the population has already started contracting, vs say, Kenya, where the population is still growing rapidly. However, these curves should come with error bars that grow as you go farther ou…
Re: The global population pyramid
#23Its an interesting visualization. Another site that shows this for individual countries is https://www.populationpyramid.net/ It is interesting to contrast countries at different points on their development. E.g., in Japan, where the population has already started contracting, vs say, Kenya, where the population is still growing rapidly. However, these curves should come with error bars that grow as you go farther ou…
Re: The global population pyramid
#24This is a really interesting visual presentation of the data. Some cool observations: 1. The first five curves (1950–1990) are all in 10-year increments, so for instance, 1950's 20-year-old population maps very directly to 1960's 30-year-old population (hence the "rippling" effect produced by those six curves). 2. What's with the sudden pinch in the population of 20-year-olds in 2018? It tapers in very heavily from t…
Hi rlue! This is largely due to China's population dynamics. Here I've made a chart that shows the number of births (and deaths) in China over the last 69 years: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/births-and-deaths-project... 30 and also 50 years ago China had large cohorts of newborns, these are the 'ripples' you see going through the global population pyramid. The number of births is always determined by two factor…
So the chosen UN projections for this graph don't stagger like the historic data because they assume no famines or other high-death-toll events in the given period then?
On the one hand, I imagine we must have a big disaster coming our way eventually. On the other, if you factored it into your projections, you'd have to guess at the approximate time and magnitude of such an event, which I'm sure is not the business of whoever's making these projections.
Re: The global population pyramid
#25There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction. This is the next global issue as it will lead to instability in modern rich societies in that they are not sustainable.
Japan is the future of all other rich societies, rapid shrinkage if you exclude immigration.
And if you encourage immigration as the solution to shrinkage you end up with rising racism and other reactionary trends to these changing demographics.
Right now the only societies that are growing or even stable are either developing/poor or highly conservative/religious societies.
If we do not address this issue then the world's future is likely poor or highly religious (most likely both) as demographics is the future whether we like it or not.
Also societies with shrinking populations will tend to have horrid economies and probably negative growth as the pyramid is inverted. Probably again like Japan.
Re: The global population pyramid
#26My concern is that population will shrink after 2100 globally but it will already be shrinking in the rich countries long before that. And all indicators right now is that shrinkage will speed up. There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction…
Re: The global population pyramid
#27My concern is that population will shrink after 2100 globally but it will already be shrinking in the rich countries long before that. And all indicators right now is that shrinkage will speed up. There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction…
Western society is moving away from traditional families. When I ask my son what he wants to become when he's older, he says he wants to be a police officer.
When I ask my 2 girls, they both want to become a mom. My social engineered response to this was "maybe you should become a school teacher, that way you can work with kids and be home when your kids are home". Because let's face it, being only a mom as a girl is not socially acceptable. It's a weak position to be in. We are told to push them into engineering, STEM fields, becoming CEO's, world leaders, whatever. That's what we should do. But my girls, at this age, just want to become a mom.
Western society is trying to make boys out of girls, and girls out of boys. I have no problem with women working in tech fields, and I worked with many great ones. But the question needs to be asked is if our society will survive such a thing.
On one hand it's great that women have all these new rights, are getting more "equal" to men. But if your own culture is unable to produce enough children, and you have to import families and children from regions where womens rights are questionable, you need to ask how sustainable your democratic equal society is.
This is still a big question for myself, so any real discussion is welcome, because maybe I'm overlooking something (so please don't just downvote).
Maybe if we want our society to survive, we need to accept that although women are equal to men, they are very different. A family is made up of a man and a women, who support each other in their strengths and interests, and raise children together. Maybe our society should steer away from pushing women into a 'male' role that on one hands makes sense, but on the other hand is questionable. Maybe instead of pushing women into 'male' roles, we should support them better in how they benefit our society.
I know this comes across as really terrible, because history has shown that stay at home moms are in a really weak position. But on the other hand, modern society is unable to produce enough kids, and so import people from 'stay at home mom' cultures.
Any constructive discussion is welcome.
Re: The global population pyramid
#28My concern is that population will shrink after 2100 globally but it will already be shrinking in the rich countries long before that. And all indicators right now is that shrinkage will speed up. There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction…
One of the worst things about using immigration as a solution is that it's merely a bandaid. The worst thing is that people who encourage mass immigration are (likely) unknowingly saying their country is more deserving of the temporary benefits of immigration, and the source country can go to hell.
Many countries that are currently sources of large numbers of immigrants are rapidly approaching sub-replacement levels (e.g. Mexico), if they haven't already reached that point (e.g., Vietnam, China). The idea behind mass immigration is that you have a constant supply of workers and tax payers to subsidize the welfare of the retiring natives of a country. The idea of having a class of people subsidize others is troublesome enough, but the real problem is those less wealthy countries that immigrants come from are now lacking in workers and losing their own future. For countries that are still only beginning to develop, such as Vietnam, their future is a hell of a lot more at risk than something like Canada.
First world countries relying on immigrants have infrastructure and various frameworks built up that'll last them for quite a while after populations begin to dip. Poor countries do not have that benefit. Shit will hit the fan and hard. Young people who struggle to meet basic daily needs are going to be pissed when they're working for dollars a day and expected to support the social nets given to 3 generations above them while being told there's nothing left for them.
Right now, the government is saying we should mass import Vietnamese people to change the diapers of our old and do dirty construction jobs. What's Vietnam going to do in 25 years when its population crisis catches up with it, and every country around it is going through the same problem? Nobody's changing their diapers and their streets are going to crumble from insufficient laborers.
Re: The global population pyramid
#29My concern is that population will shrink after 2100 globally but it will already be shrinking in the rich countries long before that. And all indicators right now is that shrinkage will speed up. There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction…
I'm going to give my not so popular answer for this. Western society is moving away from traditional families. When I ask my son what he wants to become when he's older, he says he wants to be a police officer. When I ask my 2 girls, they both want to become a mom. My social engineered response to this was "maybe you should become a school teacher, that way you can work with kids and be home when your kids are home".…
This is a contentious claim, as there are different measures of “enough kids”. Some examples I can think of are:
Enough kids to support the economic 2% growth assumptions? Enough kids to reduce natural resource consumption to prolong the number of years the Earth is habitable? Enough kids to prevent another country or group of countries from walking in and taking over? Enough kids to take care of the older people and the rest of the country’s infrastructure and still make advancements?
I don’t know what all the answers are, but it’s super complicated. From what I can tell though in my peer group, the biggest thing stopping people from having kids is lack of funds, job security, lack of parental leave, and an inability to find what they consider suitable partners within child bearing ages.
How much of that is due to women entering the workforce versus other things such as declining real wages and job opportunities, I don’t know.
Re: The global population pyramid
#30My concern is that population will shrink after 2100 globally but it will already be shrinking in the rich countries long before that. And all indicators right now is that shrinkage will speed up. There is something wrong with rich modern secular society here or anywhere (it happens to all societies right now whether they are European, Japanese, Chinese, etc) in that it currently leads to sub replacement reproduction…
I'm going to give my not so popular answer for this. Western society is moving away from traditional families. When I ask my son what he wants to become when he's older, he says he wants to be a police officer. When I ask my 2 girls, they both want to become a mom. My social engineered response to this was "maybe you should become a school teacher, that way you can work with kids and be home when your kids are home".…