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Amazon Announces Free Monitoring for Amazon EC2 Instances

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Re: Amazon Announces Free Monitoring for Amazon EC2 Instances

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Wow! Amazon just keeps getting better and better (and cheaper and cheaper). Hmmm...what are they up to?

It is a race to the bottom. Amazon is attempting to commoditize all aspects of their Cloud offerings.

If something becomes a standard feature, a competitor or service cannot pick up the slack and use it as a differentiating feature.

Re: Amazon Announces Free Monitoring for Amazon EC2 Instances

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not a US citizen, of course.

If you are a US citizen, there's also an agency for that...

NSA, CIA and FBI "free monitoring" is not free - the billing is via another 3-letter agency: IRS ;)

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This definitely sweetens the deal. AMZN's monitoring facilities have been expensive and not really all that good.

I agree with you, it very expensive for small startups not taken off yet. For example Cloudkicks charges $99/month for their entry level offering. May be their target customers are startups/companies which are taken off (profitable, VC funded). Also as suggested by other commenter (troels) , monitoring may be not essential for all startups at the early stage.

Re: Amazon Announces Free Monitoring for Amazon EC2 Instances

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Wow! Amazon just keeps getting better and better (and cheaper and cheaper). Hmmm...what are they up to?

It is a race to the bottom. Amazon is attempting to commoditize all aspects of their Cloud offerings. If something becomes a standard feature, a competitor or service cannot pick up the slack and use it as a differentiating feature.

I agree. This is not the first time that Amazon have targeted the companies that can/could be used to add value to their offerings.

There was a company (cannot remember the same sorry) that provided MySQL in amazons cloud before they launched their RDS service. And an much better service it was too. The startup did not ask you to give them a 4 hour window where they can bring down your DB. But still it was an Amazon service so the brand awareness was there.

This seems like a direct attack on the likes of cloudkick. I do not understand the motivation to be honest. They were making some money from their own monitoring and not they are making none, but they are pushing companies like cloudkick away from survival and innovating more.

While the free micro instances offer was obviously a push to put the boot into Rackspace and attempt to take the remaining % of the IaaS market this I understand less.

It seems Amazon have ignored the old rules where in a new market there is less direct competition as there is plenty to go around and have gone straight for total market domination.

Disclosure: My project has(had) as a highlight feature IaaS monitoring, metrics and alerting. So if the above sounds a little unreasoned please forgive me while I contemplate a pivot. :-(

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What will be the impact of this on third party monitoring apps like CloudKick.?May be they have to provide more value addition on other areas of cloud computing like custom building of servers , automating sys-admin etc.

CloudKick is nicer, but then free is free. I use CloudKick for my stuff and I don't think I'll stop. Some customers however need to cut their costs for many-Ec2 instance deployments, so the free monitoring is good.

I just checked most of the large instances my customer runs, and noticed some are very underutilized; wonder if free monitoring might reduce Amazon's revenue?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a race to the bottom. Amazon is attempting to commoditize all aspects of their Cloud offerings. If something becomes a standard feature, a competitor or service cannot pick up the slack and use it as a differentiating feature.

I agree. This is not the first time that Amazon have targeted the companies that can/could be used to add value to their offerings. There was a company (cannot remember the same sorry) that provided MySQL in amazons cloud before they launched their RDS service. And an much better service it was too. The startup did not ask you to give them a 4 hour window where they can bring down your DB. But still it was an Amazon…

It was FathomDB (I worked there). FathomDB is still going actually, but I'd basically warn anyone away from building a convenience service on top of Amazon's stack - they're using the Microsoft playbook.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a race to the bottom. Amazon is attempting to commoditize all aspects of their Cloud offerings. If something becomes a standard feature, a competitor or service cannot pick up the slack and use it as a differentiating feature.

I agree. This is not the first time that Amazon have targeted the companies that can/could be used to add value to their offerings. There was a company (cannot remember the same sorry) that provided MySQL in amazons cloud before they launched their RDS service. And an much better service it was too. The startup did not ask you to give them a 4 hour window where they can bring down your DB. But still it was an Amazon…

Hank Rearden disagrees.

Re: Amazon Announces Free Monitoring for Amazon EC2 Instances

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post #17

This definitely sweetens the deal. AMZN's monitoring facilities have been expensive and not really all that good.

I agree with you, it very expensive for small startups not taken off yet. For example Cloudkicks charges $99/month for their entry level offering. May be their target customers are startups/companies which are taken off (profitable, VC funded). Also as suggested by other commenter (troels) , monitoring may be not essential for all startups at the early stage.

I've often been unhappy with off-the-shelf monitoring systems, because every major site I've worked on has had some unique kind of problem.

For instance, there was one site where user abuse was the real problem... Bad enough that I built something that detected possible abusive behavior and would beep my pager.

For another project we had about 20 geographically distributed mirror sites, and we had to monitor network connections to all of them and make sure they were all alive and staying synchronized.

Right now I've got a site where the caching system screws up periodically and then I start getting 500 errors. Sooner or later I'm going to really fix the problem, in the short term what I really need is something that gets in my face whenever the 500 error rate spikes.

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