Can we finally stop saying safari is the new ie, and recognize that chrome is now literally the new IE? Seriously, this means that chrome has more or less complete market dominance at this point.
Why is Safari the new IE?
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#23Can we finally stop saying safari is the new ie, and recognize that chrome is now literally the new IE? Seriously, this means that chrome has more or less complete market dominance at this point.
“Being IE” has at least two meanings: a) having a market share so big that others do not care about the other browsers and b) being technically stagnant for years (though this may be looked at just as byproduct of #1).
So Chrome derivarives might fit first criteria but neither them nor Safari fits (yet) the second one. Yes, Safari development may be not as fast but it is still ongoing and the team is not disbanded.
The most evil thing Google is doong with their browser right now may be implementation of non-standard features which only help their business.
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#24Can we finally stop saying safari is the new ie, and recognize that chrome is now literally the new IE? Seriously, this means that chrome has more or less complete market dominance at this point.
It wasn't dominance that people were referring to, it's the intentional heel dragging to benefit other parts of their corporate family at the expense of the web that makes Safari the new IE.
when people say "Safari is the new IE" they mean that Safari has numerous bugs and missing features that take years to fix or implement. there's probably a ton of CSS stuff that doesn't need -webkit prefixes anymore in any browser (because it has been standardized). except of course in the outdated and widely-used Safari/iOS. For instance, they only now got Intersection Observer (super important to efficiently lazy load on mobile devices) in the latest iOS tech preview. many browsers have had it since 2017: https://caniuse.com/#search=intersectionobserver
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#26Can we finally stop saying safari is the new ie, and recognize that chrome is now literally the new IE? Seriously, this means that chrome has more or less complete market dominance at this point.
Isn't that changing the goalpost a little bit? I don't think anyone ever called Safari the new IE because of market dominance.
Personally, I compare it to IE because of how weird it can be. Does anyone else remember the time they broke file upload[1], even though those issues were found in beta[2]? Or about the time they changed meta viewport[3]?
Edit: Oh, the last link also remind me of the window.location change that utterly broke Angular/Ionic[4].
[1] https://blog.fineuploader.com/ios8-presents-serious-issues-t...
[2] https://github.com/FineUploader/fine-uploader/issues/1269 (I can't remember the Apple radar bug number(s))
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/3la04p/psa_safa...
[4] https://blog.ionicframework.com/ios-9-potential-breaking-cha...
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#28I wish they've would have gone with Firefox's Quantum, in order to try and at least balance out web market shares.
MSFT no longer has any leverage in the web, so trying to keep it fair and accessible (no browser monopolies) should be a priority for them (especially since they have quite a few web platforms like office 365)
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#29> Support for Mac and all supported versions of Windows will also come over time. Is anyone actually planning to use Edge on macOS? What reasons would you have for doing so?
This reminds me of the 5 year period from 2007 to 2012 when Apple made Safari for Windows. I got curious and used it for a few weeks, but moved back to Firefox for the extensions.
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#30Can we finally stop saying safari is the new ie, and recognize that chrome is now literally the new IE? Seriously, this means that chrome has more or less complete market dominance at this point.
Why is Safari the new IE?
At least on IOS you're stuck with safari/the system webview, so even if you make a web browser app (this includes chrome/firefox) they're using the safari engine.
The issue stems from the slow adoption of certain technologies. That was the issue everyone had with IE 6 - everyone used it but it lacked modern features so it sucked to use, but you had to because of it's market share.