I wonder if this means that Apple's positioning as the privacy focused choice is coming to an end.
Apple Hires AI and Deep Learning Expert Ian Goodfellow
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#22I don’t work at FAANG, but the general sense I get is that while there is no doubt top DL talent that should command mid six to seven figure salaries, it seems that with AI programs stuffed at both the undergrad and grad levels that things should cool off eventually. More broadly, does success in academia usually translate to delivering business value? Are these companies betting on these researchers to come up with…
I'm not in academia or at a FAANG, but I think that talented professors should always have applicable skills. A professor successfully running a research lab is basically running a small company. They need to raise grant money, and then deliver results, all while needing to mentor their employees. Because most of their workers will be students and leave after graduation.
So if you define top talent to be research lab or publication success I think that top talent will always be attractive corporate RD, assuming there's a match in the research area. I don't really know how these companies are evaluating their RD, so delivering business value is another question.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you refer to the “not to be used to make nukes” section it’s a pretty standard clause for software exports in the US to comply with ITAR.
Kim Jong-Un clearly didn't read it. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ta0lh9phcr...
Interesting that the ethernet cable is unplugged
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#24Still won't help. Simple fact of life is: to attract research talent you have to let your researchers publish (and not anonymously like they started doing recently, but under their own names), and afford them considerable freedom in what to publish. There's no way in hell Apple will do that, with or without Goodfellow. Good for Ian, I suppose, but Apple will continue to languish in AI until it reconsiders its stolid,…
eh honestly a lot AI people might give up publishing for a little while to work with/around goodfellow.
Re: Apple Hires AI and Deep Learning Expert Ian Goodfellow
#25Still won't help. Simple fact of life is: to attract research talent you have to let your researchers publish (and not anonymously like they started doing recently, but under their own names), and afford them considerable freedom in what to publish. There's no way in hell Apple will do that, with or without Goodfellow. Good for Ian, I suppose, but Apple will continue to languish in AI until it reconsiders its stolid,…
eh honestly a lot AI people might give up publishing for a little while to work with/around goodfellow.
Why give up _anything_ and not go to e.g. Google Brain or FAIR or MSR instead? All three labs have dozens of people of comparable caliber _each_. At this point Apple is starting at a massive disadvantage, and they'd need to offer a radically better game to catch up. Which is something they aren't prepared to do.
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#26Apple can probably poach all the AI people that don't want to work for a weapons contractor. Doubt Apple's going to be moving beyond consumer products anytime soon.
I hope they do. More job openings for me since I don't mind working for a weapons contractor.
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#27Apple can probably poach all the AI people that don't want to work for a weapons contractor. Doubt Apple's going to be moving beyond consumer products anytime soon.
I hope they do. More job openings for me since I don't mind working for a weapons contractor.
You're going to slot in for Ian Goodfellow?
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#30Until Apple makes ALL of their services cross-platform, it's really hard to justify getting excited. I know in the US Apple has a strong presence, but if they truly want their services to exceed, they will need to go to Windows / Desktop Linux / Web / Android to compete. They were able to do it with Apple Music. Why not with Siri, iMessage, and the slew of new services they've introduced?
Apple didn't become the richest company in the world by being cross-platform.
That was Google's fault, and look at how EU repeatedly punishes them for trying to not be Apple.