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Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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This is quite a change from when they ruined a man’s life for using Github.

Not really. If someone try to do something what they consider stealing, they will still pursue the case with all legal might.

Hey, serious question but off topic from the thread:

You used the word "what" where we would normally use the word "that".

I've heard this done during speech numerous times from everyone ranging from fluent native speakers to learning nonnative speakers. Was there a specific reason you did it here?

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Of course, if this technology was able to price securities better than the market (the fundamental job of almost every market participant), it would be printing money and they would not release it. This is not the secret sauce, but probably an implementation of a set of standard well known pricing and risk models. That's still useful, and can be expensive to develop, so thanks Goldman.

Investment banks don't even have the secret sauce, hedge funds like Renaissance Technologies and D. E. Shaw & Co. are the ones that have it

Investment banks have proprietary trading desks that are effectively hedge funds.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. If someone try to do something what they consider stealing, they will still pursue the case with all legal might.

Hey, serious question but off topic from the thread: You used the word "what" where we would normally use the word "that". I've heard this done during speech numerous times from everyone ranging from fluent native speakers to learning nonnative speakers. Was there a specific reason you did it here?

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Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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How much do we wanna bet this is just a recruiting gimmick?

Oh, you mean like them offering a VP position (without telling you maybe half of the people there are VPs)?

This isn't unusual/deceptive in the industry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_president

> In business, "vice president" refers to hierarchical position that ranges from extremely senior positions directly reporting to C-level executives (in non-financial companies), to junior non-management positions with four to 10 years of experience (in financial companies).

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> In brokerage firms, investment banks and other financial companies, "vice president" is a seniority rank rather than denoting an actual managerial position within the company. It is a relatively junior position, usually does not denote managerial responsibilities and companies have a large number of vice presidents, perhaps as an inexpensive way for a company to recognize employees, or perhaps because of delayering when an employee can't be moved higher in the organization but still deserves recognition. In most cases, the title merely implies that someone is in a medium-seniority individual contributor role.

I work in the same industry, and my boss is a vice president (and had been a vice president for years despite becoming a manager only last year); his boss is a vice president; his boss is a managing director; his boss is a managing director; her boss is the CTO; his bosses own the company. I'm at roughly a level 4 in Google terms, and at my next promotion I can apply for VP and at the one after that I must apply for VP, regardless of whether I stay on the IC track or move to the manager track. So that should get you an idea of what "VP" means.

All of this was new to me when joining, though, and it would be nice to have it more publicly known.

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. If someone try to do something what they consider stealing, they will still pursue the case with all legal might.

Hey, serious question but off topic from the thread: You used the word "what" where we would normally use the word "that". I've heard this done during speech numerous times from everyone ranging from fluent native speakers to learning nonnative speakers. Was there a specific reason you did it here?

It's a British dialect thing, but not sure if that's the case with the poster here. See: https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/162619/usage-of-...

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investment banks don't even have the secret sauce, hedge funds like Renaissance Technologies and D. E. Shaw & Co. are the ones that have it

Investment banks have proprietary trading desks that are effectively hedge funds.

GS used to be nicknamed “the worlds largest hedge fund”. They have plenty of world class proprietary tech, but the OP is right: this is not likely to be secret sauce at all.

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. If someone try to do something what they consider stealing, they will still pursue the case with all legal might.

Hey, serious question but off topic from the thread: You used the word "what" where we would normally use the word "that". I've heard this done during speech numerous times from everyone ranging from fluent native speakers to learning nonnative speakers. Was there a specific reason you did it here?

Sorry. I am non-native speaker so very likely I am wrongly using 'what' in place of 'that'. After you mentioned I am feeling 'that' would be correct usage.

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investment banks don't even have the secret sauce, hedge funds like Renaissance Technologies and D. E. Shaw & Co. are the ones that have it

Investment banks have proprietary trading desks that are effectively hedge funds.

I don’t think this is accurate. Regulators release the Volcker Rule to shut down prop trading at banks.

Re: Goldman Sachs will open-source some of its trading software

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Of course, if this technology was able to price securities better than the market (the fundamental job of almost every market participant), it would be printing money and they would not release it. This is not the secret sauce, but probably an implementation of a set of standard well known pricing and risk models. That's still useful, and can be expensive to develop, so thanks Goldman.

It's akin to Facebook open sourcing their social network framework, rather than the entire personal information of all their users. Of course it's useful to some people, but it's not what makes them money.
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