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French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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How long would it take the cryptocurrency miners to use all their hashing power to find the deterministic key that generates the content of libgen? That might be an easier solution than trying to achieve minimally sane copyright reform.

>How long would it take the cryptocurrency miners to use all their hashing power to find the deterministic key that generates the content of libgen?

Could you not simply hash the content of libgen to find said key?

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Why do the French have such a hard-on for copyright enforcement? (Honest question)

I think it's fair to say in France that something will "strictly forbidden" (formellement interdit) and by and large ignored, except when a real problem arises or an example is to be made.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Would be interesting to measure the negative impact on a French science. Not sure how much though.

I would expect there to be basically none. Most of the journals that people are after their university still pays for access for. Failing that, they email the author and get a copy directly. And if that isn't possible, there are a few people with wider ranging interests or wider ranging technical skills who know about sci-hub and libgen, and they will pass out the new domain name as necessary. Or even convince the department's IT to use a non-French DNS provider as the DHCP setting.

Sci-hub and LibGen are services that those of us outside a university or at something besides rich research universities depend on more.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Why do the French have such a hard-on for copyright enforcement? (Honest question)

I guess because it's the law, and governments are supposed to enforce the law.

I'm slightly baffled by the difference, though, as some other laws are not enforced. For instance, the case where directors of a tyre manufacturer were forcibly taken hostage and physically abused by the workers. Normally, you'd send in the police, arrest hostage-takers and give them long imprisonment.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

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Would be interesting to measure the negative impact on a French science. Not sure how much though.

I would expect there to be basically none. Most of the journals that people are after their university still pays for access for. Failing that, they email the author and get a copy directly. And if that isn't possible, there are a few people with wider ranging interests or wider ranging technical skills who know about sci-hub and libgen, and they will pass out the new domain name as necessary. Or even convince the de…

You still can't compare the ease of an access. It is like Google+click to read the article vs emailing authors for every article you want to read. At least that would decrease reading efficiency of the related research, at most - reduce the coverage of the studied material, just because it would require substantial amount of time, compared to direct click. That, in turn, might reduce the percentage of ideas that came during reading others' articles. Think of Sci-Hub as a hypertext engine for science. You copy DOI, you press the Enter, and you are reading an article.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

#29

How long would it take the cryptocurrency miners to use all their hashing power to find the deterministic key that generates the content of libgen? That might be an easier solution than trying to achieve minimally sane copyright reform.

It doesn't work like that. Hashes aren't compressed versions of the hashed content.

Re: French ISPs Ordered to Block Sci-Hub and LibGen

#30

How long would it take the cryptocurrency miners to use all their hashing power to find the deterministic key that generates the content of libgen? That might be an easier solution than trying to achieve minimally sane copyright reform.

It doesn't work like that. Hashes aren't compressed versions of the hashed content.

Well, not losslessly compressed :)
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