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Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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I knew of that 9 months ago, but nobody was interested so I dropped it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17329825

I wonder how often this kind of comments fall through the cracks like this. Happened to me too with something privacy related about one of the big Corps that then was noticed by everyone else a few weeks later...

I agree with others, better open a "Tell HN" in this cases.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

#23

If it was the Chinese who were trying to spy, it'd be pretty dumb to use a .cn URL isn't it? Seems to support the US paranoia about Chinese gear and if proven as known evil, doesn't help huawei's 5g aspirations...

The Chinese don't have to be covert about their tracking activities. It's part of their society, and everyone (at least outside of China) is aware of it, and nobody inside of China is allowed to talk about it.

I guess that when you are saying that nobody is allowed to talk about it, you are talking about politics because I would have broken the law so many times otherwise.

I have been living there for a while and Chinese people can talk about it as freely as elsewhere and most of the people I know are very aware of it.

The opinions about tracking/surveillance are not the same than in the west though and it is much more accepted here. In my social circle, a large majority of Chinese people would prefer security over privacy or just don't really care.

Hard to believe for a westerner like me, but people are happy about it so far.

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese don't have to be covert about their tracking activities. It's part of their society, and everyone (at least outside of China) is aware of it, and nobody inside of China is allowed to talk about it.

People inside China are very aware of it; most just don't care that much. They (willingly, if not happily) trade what westerners might consider pillars of freedom for widespread prosperity. When you consider the progress China has made over the last 50 years from the perspective of a typical Chinese citizen, you can see why they make that bargain.

I hear this often, but it kinda implies they prospered because they had this obnoxious rules, i fail to see if this is actually true. Wouldn't they still be better without this tyranical bullshit?

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

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This has to be fixed by HMD and I hope for an official investigation as most other manufacturers are probably doing the same.

In the meantime, I recommend the following:

1. Remove any unnecessary packages through ADB (https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatwa...)

2. Use Shelter (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.typeblog.shelter/)

3. Use a VPN-Firewall such as NetGuard (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/) or NoRoot Firewall (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.greyshirts...).

Re: Nokia phones sent identifiable data to Chinese server

#29
post #21

I knew of that 9 months ago, but nobody was interested so I dropped it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17329825

I wonder how often this kind of comments fall through the cracks like this. Happened to me too with something privacy related about one of the big Corps that then was noticed by everyone else a few weeks later... I agree with others, better open a "Tell HN" in this cases.

Happens with a lot of posts, if they don't reach a critical mass of upvotes early on. In this case probably nobody could verify, if the claims were correct.
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