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Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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Just to note: Some death-metal bands have positive lyrics[0,1]... (Though, whether they can really be called a death metal band is possibly a point of contention.) [0] - https://youtu.be/lk2-bgwA0Ro [1] - https://youtu.be/Nh10gL_GP_w

Not only do they have positive lyrics, some even have comforting recipes[2] https://youtu.be/xwksxDHNoAE

tgi definitely have positive lyrics, most modern melodic hc bands do, but they are definitely hardcore and not metal

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I'd like to see a study like this done on members of the Norwegian black metal scene from the early 90s. Because I still can't figure out what the burnings and stuff were about (aside from paganism, I guess), and “TROO” metalheads sound pretty crazy even compared to all the other ‘alternative’ culture aficionados.

But generally, of course, this experiment seems like just one bit of a proper comprehensive study.

Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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Great to see research coming to a conclusion I think most metalheads intuitively know. I love walls of sound, I love intensity that feels like it takes a surplus of cognitive bandwidth (ADHD) and gives it a little bit of resistance to tug against, almost like those various rubber stress toys. I think most metal fans hear lyrical gruesomeness as something between fantasy and a cause for more empathy than anything else…

Wow, I haven't heard "Job for a Cowboy" since I was in high school. HN was definitely last place I would have expected the reminder. I will say I saw my fair share of fights at shows between the typical crowd and Neo-Nazi types, who were sometimes hard to distinguish from what we called "gutter-punks". So I don't completely share your experience, though the way you state it was how it was most of the time. Communal and caring, admittedly it seems ever group is this way toward it's in-crowd. West-coast hardcore seemed to bring out people who were looking for fights, I even got someones blood on my shoe once at a Terror show. As an innocent bystander ofcourse.

I'm about 10 years older now, and have traded in that sound wall, for a different kind. As an "adult" (Is 29 adult, probably not) I can get that same feeling listening to people like Lawrence English, and Tim Hecker, who are most assuredly not metal at all but produce much denser layers of frequency that would put any metal band to shame. I mostly just listen to jazz though, which takes a severe bit of concentration, attacking the "ADHD" from a different angle. Forcing me to follow a phrase through, for fear of it becoming noise.

Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

#25

That's death metal though. Other forms of extreme metal can have lyrics that, far from toying with splatter-gore themes for the shock value, express terminally anti-social politics. I'm thinking of black. Sometimes I'm just happy that a few of the bands I listen to sing in Swedish or Norwegian etc that I don't understand, so that I can't tell what they're singing about. Although the imagery can often give a bit of a…

the antisocial/nsbm culture of black metal is mostly a meme, left in the realms of dsbm and of nsbm/small niches of the microsubgenre war metal

pensees nocturnes dropped a circus black metal album and its pretty fun/literally 0 nsbm elements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FiKXVZnlQE

Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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post #22

I'd like to see a study like this done on members of the Norwegian black metal scene from the early 90s. Because I still can't figure out what the burnings and stuff were about (aside from paganism, I guess), and “TROO” metalheads sound pretty crazy even compared to all the other ‘alternative’ culture aficionados. But generally, of course, this experiment seems like just one bit of a proper comprehensive study.

the norwegian scene was mainly just edgy teenagers making music as an affront to the overly commercialized nature of metal at that time, with more roots in punk/folk than what most people think of as "metal", and ofc hail satan/vandalizing bullshit is going to be the route you take if you live in nowhere norway

ironically now the 1st and 2nd wave bm bands are used as aesthetic pieces for edgy mainstream artists

Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We did once informal study among friends comparing heart rate in rest and taste in music. Those with low heart rate favored faster tempo and those with fastest heartbeat favored slowest tempo. (Age and cardiovascular fitness matter more, but tt the time we were all young and relatively fit).

Are you also considering an analogy: those with innate capacities for violence tend to favor an aesthetic or desire of joy or peace? It's not 100% true, but I find that it tends to be.

So heavy metal brings joy, but Nazis and psychopaths love classical music at least in the movies.

Re: Death metal music inspires joy not violence

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So here's a thought that just occurred to me.

For context, I've never understood death metal or anything in that realm. The screaming in particular... but I realize that's just my personal preference. No judgment intended. Just opinion, not objective fact.

So only recently I discovered the ASMR phenomenon. And it seems like ~10% of the population (estimated) get a particular response to those sounds.

Other commenters here talk about a "wall of intensity" and things in that realm. What if metal appreciation is the same way as ASMR? By this I mean, what if you just have a predisposition to the sound intensity?

Just a question. I have no answers. This might be ridiculous. I have no idea.

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